<p>That sounds like a profoundly dysfunctional family to me. No wonder he’s turned into such a mess. Regardless, even if they don’t find out, all the kids at Exeter and so forth will be epochs more mature (academically and socially) than him. He wouldn’t have fun being the odd one out.</p>
<p>I have seen plenty of liars. Most get what they want… Then suddenly they get bitten in the ass because of their lie with a price million times worse.</p>
<p>helpme13: Having multiple years of participation in sports/clubs–whether it’s a lie or not–is not the most impressive, and is certainly not the most important, part of a student’s application. One must understand that the VAST MAJORITY of applicants to places like Exeter and Andover have the credentials you mentioned: great grades, very good recommendations, solid extracurriculars, etc. Trust me, admission officers are very good at sniffing out liars. And even if they don’t catch him in a lie in the interview, there are other ways to tell.</p>
<p>Sports was a big part of my Exeter interview last year, and trust me I could not have kept a lie that long without making it clear that I am a bad liar. Beyond that it’s the fact that he lied and not the degree of his lie that will keep him out.</p>
<p>It’s his choice, but if he keeps asking himself “how will they tell?” then he is not thinking in the right way.</p>
<p>What do you thing is the most important part to get admission…I personally say the application packet (essays and short answers).</p>
<p>Obama’s dad got an MA at Harvard, so tell me how he got into Harvard Law School with a “C” average at Columbia? Nepotism helps PV and always will.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t worry. The Administrations will find out, either now or later, and if they find out later, even after he graduates, his degree will be taken away. It is serious stuff. I would try to convince him not to do it. I seriously read on many different college websites what they will do, and it was things like kicking you out of college. And if your friend goes on to get a bachelors or PhD, and they find out after that, the PhD is gone, as well as the bachelors. Besides, the college consults with the school to make sure it is all true.</p>
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I don’t get your point… Obama graduated Cum Laude and what not…</p>
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Exactly… Maybe not that bad, but something like that, yes. Imagine getting expelled senior year…</p>
<p>“Obama graduated Cum Laude and what not.”</p>
<p>Not from Columbia he didn’t:)</p>
<p>Probably not… He got into Harvard and kicked ass, though… I guess if his presidency depended on what he learned in Columbia I would be more concerned. Moreover, he got into Harvard with stats from Columbia (and AA, I guess).</p>
<p>That is a terrible, terrible idea. Tell him that is not an option.
First of all, that shows a SERIOUS lack of honesty and integrity.
Second of all, he could get caught in the process (what if his interviewer asks him specific questions about football? What’s he going to say?)
Third and most importantly, suppose he does get in. The schools are going to expect a soccer/football/track star, which he won’t be. He’ll be totally humiliated and the school will be upset.</p>
<p>PrincipalIV, you need to calm down. Beating up on helpme isn’t getting anyone anywhere. Calling them illiterate isn’t making you any smarter.</p>
<p>Also there is no reason for bringing politics into the matter. You obviously are a democrat. George W. Bush WAS our president, no matter how controversial, and until you match his achievements, you need to respect that.</p>
<p>I realize this post is coming a bit late, but still.</p>
<p>I was beating up on how helpme was defending his friends actions… I respected GWs office, and until this January 20th I respected him. Seeing as he no longer holds such an office I do not feel obliged to respect him.</p>
<p>Does it really mater that much?</p>
<p>Nah, it really doesn’t, unless GW is running Obama’s administration now. I think we can safely say it’s a tough job and Obama is doing a tad worse than GW was doing at this point of his administration.
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<p>Sarum…can I have some of what you’re smoking?</p>
<p>I have the same question as ThacherParent, Sarum.</p>
<p>Don’t get addicted to that heroin, now, Sarum. Not good to have a mid life crisis.</p>
<p>Well I wouldn’t have wanted him to be my son’s roommate in BS. Would you?</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - Sean Hannity - Obama & Friends History of Radicalism 1-6 College Years](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthv8QmJLUw]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthv8QmJLUw)</p>
<p>More importantly is the fact that he made up for his mistakes in a most incredible way. He’s the President of the god damn United States of America! Gotta account for SOMETHING…</p>
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Sorry, getting drunk at frat parties is not an achievement, any idiot (and GW proved that) can do that. More importantly, how do you figure I am a democrat. Tell me some of the platforms for which I stand, and what I disagree with and then tell me I am a democrat or a republican.</p>