<p>even if it says score cancelled it wouldn't matter, because people cancel scores when they do badly and stuff</p>
<p>but will it say "self-cancelled" or "cancelled by college board"</p>
<p>The admissions office doesn't even see the CB report AFAIK. I believe it goes straight to the registrar's office, which I don't think can rescind you (directly at least, they could forward it to the admissions office if it looks suspicious I suppose).</p>
<p>For all Penn knows you could have had an attack of gastritis in the middle of the exam... I'd be more worried about school administrators saying something to Penn adm.</p>
<p>would i have screwed myself over if my school ended up not informing penn but i have already called my regional director asking for what the policy is and saying i was involved in a cheating bust?</p>
<p>and i am not looking for sarcastic remarks saying that i have already screwed myself over for cheating already. tahnk you hahh</p>
<p>Did your friend get in trouble?</p>
<p>(not sure if you answered this already)</p>
<p>Ugh, posting this on the internet wasn't the best of ideas because now maybe Penn guys will be on the lookout... nevertheless...</p>
<p>I won't spend too long berating you for cheating, because people have different reasons for doing what they do, and sometimes they just made a mistake in a bout of momentary madness. I think having to worry about being rescinded is enough.</p>
<p>Hard decision. You can take your chances and hope the Office of Testing Integrity says nothing to Penn. If they don't, you might get away with it. However, if they do and Penn finds out you were trying to hide it, you'll be mud (although admittedly if you're reported you're in hot water already). The other option, owning up to it and outright telling Penn, is a riskier move - you can hope that they'll have mercy because you were honest about it... but then you completely place yourself at their mercy. Either way it's tough. Think about it, and keep your fingers crossed. Best of luck.</p>
<p>^
i think that voluntarily telling upenn about this will result in a definite rescind, no matter the sincerity. just my opinion, though</p>
<p>so its a zero-tolerance policy huh? its not a thing that varies upon situation and degree?</p>
<p>cuz i have already called my regional director telling her i was involved in some cheating deal and asking for their policy. she never picked up, so i left a message. two as a matter of fact=/</p>
<p>Wow, I am really surprised that so many people know of cheating on APs and do not report it, but post it on a website. I wonder how anonymous CC actually is...</p>
<p>well..you could sue cc if they gave out personal info, so no worries about that....</p>
<p>ty keep us posted</p>
<p>If you already told your regional director that you were involved in cheating, I'm pretty sure s/he'd follow that up. I'm guessing a school like UPenn would take academic dishonesty seriously and consider rescinding you.</p>
<p>a school member i know told me that when you get reported by collegeboard... you are basically screwed. supposedly he said that collegeboard has a list of students who are dishonest and send that list to colleges to not accept students on that list...</p>
<p>i'm not sure, but it's possible.</p>
<p>I think the crux of the question is exactly how much power does the CB have, how much info they have (about where you're enrolled) and what they can disclose...? You haven't mentioned your school's admin; are they taking action? Did your friend get caught?</p>
<p>you're not going to get rescinded. simple as that. AP tests are totally optional..they should have no bearing on your college admissions. if upenn DID take AP tests from junior or sophomore year into account, then they're idiots to begin with (there are a million reasons not to take an AP test, so considering an optional test is stupid).</p>
<p>it just SEEMS that youre going to get rescinded because CB has such a close relationship with hs/college..but it is still independent. </p>
<p>for example, you can cheat all you want on the SAT and subject tests. sure your scores will be cancelled, but colleges wont give a damn about the cheating part, just the fact that you have no scores to give them. same thing applies for AP tests, except now they dont matter at all.</p>
<p>also, if you left your name in those messages, it will get tricky. they cant prove it was you talking on the phone, but the fact that your scores will be cancelled pretty much confirms it.</p>
<p>In my view, whether the AP tests were optional has nothing to do with it. The problem is centered around academic integrity. If a student has shown himself/herself to be dishonest in any way, it doesn't really matter when it was shown - schools will still hate it! Academic dishonesty is serious business.</p>
<p>I'm interested to hear - do you have evidence to support the assertion that colleges don't care about cheating?</p>
<p>Colleges care very much about cheating, and if this is reported to the college, disciplinary action is likely. He could be put on probation, he could be rescinded, he could lose a scholarship. But nothing.</p>
<p>basically i just think that his scores will get canceled and thats it. im quite sure that the office of integrity does not have time to contact each and every college for every single cheater in the nation. you dont even have to report your AP grades...i dont see why he would get rescinded for it.</p>
<p>im going to college next year...was I told that I had to send scores? no..
do i have to if i want credit? yes</p>
<p>also, how would the office of integrity even know what college to contact? by the information filled out by the student? if CB wanted a way to contact colleges, they would have made a more definite way to do so, not by using some "send scores to ____ method." if that were the case, then only cheaters who filled out that stuff would be rescinded, making it completely unfair. i know if i cheated and didnt fill out that info, i wouldnt dare reveal to CB what college im going to.</p>
<p>notice earlier i said that ap tests "should" have no bearing on college admissions, but that may not be the case. if for some reason CB does report this to UPenn then yea, he's done for. but i already stated why they wouldnt do such a thing.</p>