chem 3A v. chem 4A

<p>what is the difference between chem 3A and chem 4A? which one should a freshman take?</p>

<p>The difference is like night and day. The Chem4 series is basically intro chem, but intense. It's meant for chemistry and chemE majors.</p>

<p>The Chem3 series, on the other hand, is OChem, which is completely different from regular chem. In Chem 4, it's all about calculations. In Chem3, you calculate almost nothing, rather it's memorization of reactions, chemical reaction arrow 'attacks', and all that stuff that is the nightmare of all premeds. Basically, it's the most notorious of the premed weeders.</p>

<p>what about 4A and 1A?</p>

<p>4A is basically an 'advanced' version of 1A. 4A is basically populated with chemistry and chemical engineering students. 1A is a more general chemistry class. Obviously the competition in 4A will be far tougher, but on the other hand, the grade curve tends to be more relaxed. Hence, I would say that if you are confident in your chemistry skills, you should probably take 4A and take the more relaxed curve.</p>

<p>thanks sakky, i really appreciate your input</p>

<p>Here's how it breaks down: if you're a bio major (IB, MCB, ESPM, etc), take chem 1A. If you're a chemistry major, take chem 4A. From what I've heard, 4A is a great deal harder. 1A was not very difficult for me (I got a 3 on the AP Chem test my sophomore year in HS) and the tests (thank god!) were multiple choice. I don't think the same professor's are teaching it next semester, though. And for all you bio major... just be glad you're not in 3A yet! Took that last semester... glad its over, but not looking forward to 3b...</p>

<p>Do chem majors in L&S have to take 4A? because i heard that if you're in college of chem, then you have to take 4A, but i'm not sure about chem majors in L&S</p>

<p>I've never heard of a chemistry major that's not offered by the college of chemistry. On the major list from the lns page (<a href="http://ls.berkeley.edu/dept/)%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ls.berkeley.edu/dept/)&lt;/a>, chemistry is listed as being offered by the college of chemistry. But as far as I know... and i know quite a few chemistry majors... chemistry majors must take the chem 4 series.</p>

<p>I looked at the class schedule and it says that Cohen is the professor for Chem 4A. Any one know of how good/bad he is?</p>

<p>here's what some people have said about him at <a href="http://www.ratemyprofessors.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.ratemyprofessors.com&lt;/a>, take it with a grain of salt tho, these are just people's opinions.</p>

<p><a href="http://ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=440924%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=440924&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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I've never heard of a chemistry major that's not offered by the college of chemistry. On the major list from the lns page (<a href="http://ls.berkeley.edu/dept/)%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ls.berkeley.edu/dept/)&lt;/a>, chemistry is listed as being offered by the college of chemistry.

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<p>The chemistry major is offered by both the College of Chemistry and the College of Letters+Science. The CoC offers a BS in chemistry, LS offers a BA in chemistry.</p>

<p><a href="http://chemistry.berkeley.edu/ugrad_info/pros_ugrad/degree_choice.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://chemistry.berkeley.edu/ugrad_info/pros_ugrad/degree_choice.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Sorry, I hope it’s okay to revive an old thread.
It says here that one of the series of courses a student can take to fulfill the premed chem requirement is 4A-4B, and then Chemistry 112A and 112B</p>

<p>[Pre-Med</a> Info](<a href=“http://bioeng.berkeley.edu/premedinfo.php]Pre-Med”>http://bioeng.berkeley.edu/premedinfo.php)</p>

<p>Will chem 112A and 112B be good preparation for the MCAT since I won’t be taking chem 3A-3B (the ochem series)?</p>

<p>Yeah the 112 series is pretty much organic chemistry, mostly for chemistry and chemical engineer majors.</p>