Choate vs Groton vs Deerfield

Hi! I’ve just received all my decisions and I’m highly considering these 3 schools to attend. A little background info: I’m an international student from SEA, I use she/her pronouns.

I enjoy Visual Arts (I’m really looking for a school with a good Arts program), Humanities (a variety of interesting courses in Social Studies and Literature would be ideal) and am looking to improve my knowledge of music.

I’m not particularly athletic so would prefer a school that doesn’t have too much of a hierarchy based on if you play sports or not, or any hierarchy at all.

Also a good community service program would be great!

I know this criterion is a little specific but would appreciate if anyone knows a little about how these specific schools perform in these areas. Thank you so much, hope you all have a good day!

First of all, I’m not sure this type of thread is allowed quite yet. And secondly, have you already received news from Groton? I was under the impression that all decisions were being released at 5pm.

I sincerely apologize, I just read the moderator rules! I’ll delete the post and wait a while to reflect individually on the schools before asking. Also, I’m not sure if I’m supposed to say but since this is anonymous, I’m applying w an educational consultant and Groton informed them earlier.

Wow @fruitjuice - that is interesting about your educational consultant being informed earlier. Did you hear back from all the schools and what are your questions now?

Assuming that SEA = Southesat Asia, and not Seattle.

Groton has a much smaller enrollment than do Deerfield & Choate.

Interesting indeed.

I appreciate your honesty @fruitjuice . Given that you have a consultant, what are their opinions on the question? They’ll know you better than an internet message board.

How did you choose this person? Did you find them useful in the process up to now?

Good luck in your decision, department of nice problems to have!

I am not really sure how to help you with this choice.

Maybe, on the margin, Groton has the least athletic student body? Everyone is required to participate in sports BUT that makes the JV and thirds teams very fun. I wouldn’t say varsity athletes are kings of campus at Groton.

Groton has a strong humanities department and good arts programs, but my guess is that Choate and Deerfield do as well. Tagging @Golfgr8 and @CavsFan2003.

@one1ofeach - not sure if I can help but can share our impressions and experiences . Groton is really a beautiful and impressive school, but for our kiddo it was just too small (like I said before). Some people want that, and that’s a good fit for them. Also, our kiddo didn’t like the school room the partial wall in the dorm for 9th grade, no doors for 8th grade, the set up for study hall and felt there were too many rules for 9th graders. We have good friends whose 3 kids graduated from there and LOVED it. Kiddo loved the chapel scene, however. Some kids like that and some don’t.

Location, size, campus vibe, energy, how study halls are set up, etc…all good things to consider.

Did the consultant quit?

You know, I vividly remember when I even DARED to question choices about schools a couple of years ago during Revisit week. It’s a tough decision. There were a couple of very rude and very snarky moms - some still on here - who were not supportive. Actually the rudeness of the moms on CC a couple of years ago from one particular school helped my kiddo make up her mind - thank you!

Sending bumps to the mean mom who wrote on the thread to “go find a smaller pond within which to be a bigger fish”. Wish I could find her full post and maybe you can help me share what a really rude and biased answer looks like. She should have been sanctioned, but wasn’t. Someone questioned “mean girls”. Well, there was a clique of “mean moms” on here. The best way to deal with a bully on here - or someone disrespecting a school or hurling insults based on heresy - is to ignore them.

One of the things that might be helpful is to read through old threads about Revisit. Yes - before you say it’s not relevant - there are some good posts about things to consider and questions to ask. FWIW, I have always tried to be nice, supportive and honest - without judging. There are some posters who confuse being nice with being stupid. Don’t “be that guy”.

Finally, thank you to all the supportive and NICE parents (you know who you are) on here who did help us make that decision. You also helped us through drop off and through the first couple of years. We believe we made the right one.

Remember: You are sending your child to people, not just a school.

@Golfgr8 - OP said she has an educational consultant, no?

It was a legitimate question to ask since SS placement advice from a paid consultant is a big part of the service.

Totally legit @PhotograherMom -
I was referring to an earlier post upstream where some poster was throwing shade.

You are one of the nice ones, BTW!

Was that the post by any chance?

http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21429132/#Comment_21429132

3027, #3030, #3031

If so, then it wasn’t how it was intended. I apologize nevertheless!

@Golfgr8 - Phew, but lets not get too carried away with nice … :wink:

Ok, I’m so confused! OP said they found out about an acceptance to Groton earlier then the rest of us, but then they said it was a WL on another thread. Now there is very cryptic talk of rudeness of moms from one particular school. Can people please talk specifics? Finding CC after M10 has left me absolutely dumbfounded and decision day is approaching fast.

Feeling your pain @mommysmalls Hoping to help with information and follow up on what the OP originally posted. Did you have an acceptance to one of the schools that the OP mentioned? Are you asking @ each of these schools or about how to make a decision?

Hoping we all can help.

@Golfgr8 Thank you! Just an acceptance to Groton of these for my DC. Since the previous replies in the thread mention only Groton out of OP’s 3 titled schools, it seems like the shade thrown upstream and rude moms comments means they are in regards to that school. I just found CC- going back in threads trying to decipher info and my mind is absolutely spinning! @fruitjuice sorry for hijacking your thread, are you closer to desicion?

Congrats @mommysmalls - so happy for your DC and you! It’s a beautiful school with a really wonderful community. We have friends who attended and now their kids are alums. Been to the campus a few times. There are some folks on here who are current parents. Hope they join the conversation!

Choate is larger than both of the schools and definitely has a distinctly different feel. Deerfield and Groton are both a bit more traditional, whereas Choate is a bit more “progressive” in its policies (i.e. very relaxed dress code, no formal meals, etc.). We feel much more college-y, imo. You are given a lot of freedom and independence. Support is certainly there in the form of dorm advisors and deans, and I’m incredibly close with my advisor, but in day-to-day life a lot of the responsibilities fall on you. Nobody checks to see if you’re actually working during study hours, your teachers won’t really reach out to you if you’re not doing as well as you want (you need to initiate the conversations), all of that. Personally, I absolutely love it. As someone a bit old for my grade, I’m glad there aren’t a lot of stifling rules and policies. Students are free to roam Wallingford (which is a really cute little town, quite a bit to do) really whenever they’re free and can very easily go to New Haven, New York, Boston, etc. just by getting a day permission slip.

Choate’s humanities and arts programs are INCREDIBLY strong. I’m much more of a STEM person, but both of these programs are insanely good. There are a plethora of humanities courses in all different disciplines: philosophy, political science, government, history, economics, religion, just to name a few. All of the classes are round table discussion-based with a heavy emphasis on participation and writing. I’m in Composition and Literature, the required sophomore English class, and I can definitely say my writing has improved substantially since coming to Choate. Lots of very specific feedback, teacher comments, peer editing, etc. I’m also taking macroeconomics next term, but I don’t have much experience with the HPRSS department, as I’ve not really taken many humanities courses here.

Visual arts is massive at Choate. There is a ridiculous number of courses to take (ceramics, jewelry making, painting, drawing, digital media, photography, videomaking, environment drawing, etc.). If you’re particularly interested in art, you can also apply for the Arts Concentration (and specialize in visual arts), where you’ll take a boatload of art classes and, instead of doing sports in the afternoon, will be given 2 hours to simply work on whatever art you want. I took Digital Media Design and it was incredibly fun. The teachers in the art department are wonderful and my skills were improved bountifully during my class.

Sports at Choate are big, I won’t lie. We have loads of school spirit and people love going to games. Would I say there’s a hierarchy with athletes at the top? Ehh, not really. In my experience, there isn’t much of a concept of “popularity” here, since the environment is so much different than other high schools. Everyone’s basically on the same playing field. Now, don’t get me wrong, some people are more well-known than others, and many of those people are athletes, but it doesn’t necessarily dominate the social scene.

Choate requires 10 hours of community service per year, which is a really low amount, but you can easily do as much as you want. You can do community service as an afternoon activity, where you’ll choose between different service projects weekly. Almost every club has a community service aspect. We have a website called X2Vol, where you can see all of the Choate-sponsored service events and sign up for them. There is an event about every week, often to the CT food bank. You can also do whatever service you want outside of school, as the freedoms given to students allow this.

Okay, Choate-puke over.

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