<p>i noticed a thread about "non resident students suing california" but that's not the only lawsuit going on...</p>
<p>what do you think?</p>
<p>Hmm. Keep us updated.</p>
<p>Very interesting. I would have to agree that those courses should not be exempt. They could have easily labeled the course Ethics, like most schools and simply focused on Christian morals. It's a baisc teaching of analytical and crtical reading skills from a particular perspective that should definitely not be barred simply b/c of the course topic.</p>
<p>If I can take courses on African Culture, Russian Literature, Ethics & Diplomacy, or even an independent study of Baseball & Literature, than there is no reason why I can't take a course on Christianity and Morality in American Literature. I think that's a much more widespread an important topic that may be interesting and benificial to see for even non-religious. I mean, without actually seeing the course, my friends and I would love to study any religions wide spread impact on American culture and analyze it in literature.</p>
<p>It sounds a lot better to me than some of my friends making their own course just so they can read baseball books and write papers about Micky Mantle. If UC can accept that, than I fail to see why they can't accept this.</p>
<p>I think it boils down to whether the UCs think its primarily an academic or religious course. The UCs have approved other religious content-based courses, including Christian ones. I think the particular issue here is that the UCs dont think that the academic rigor in this class is up to par.</p>
<p>This case is going to be an interesting one because the college admissions process in this case is the grey area between church (represented by the religious school) and state (the UC system).
I'm inclined to agree w/ the religious school. If the UC has been admitting 2/3 of the school's students, then the school must be decent, including the English department that is offering the religious classes. Though I personally would hate to have to go to a religious school and be indoctrinated in conservative Christian ideology, I believe that it is the right of the religious school to do so.</p>
<p>The UC, IMHO, should only reject the course if it's ridiculously easy, which I don't think it is compared to English courses offered by public schools.</p>
<p>billybobbyk, it's nice to know that someone with such extensive experience in high school education in both private and public schools can evaluate the relative ease that public school english classes have compared to private school english classes.</p>
<p>They are being bias because the textbook while it is ture that nither you or I have seen these textbooks. I am sure they are being bias because they excepted the Biology course which tought ID and the Theory of Evolution.</p>
<p>I wish i could have more detail on the programs under question...</p>
<p>DRab, was that sarcasm I sensed? lol, I'm sorry if you think I was being arrogant; I go to public schools. To me, though, any course evaluation process is going to have problems because no one actually goes around and looks at each individual class. </p>
<p>For example, in my high school freshman English class, the syllabus said we were going to read a vast number of books and write an essay every week. However, we ended up reading only 2 books, and writing only one essay per book. The course syllabus sometimes doesn't match what is being taught. I'm simply saying that while this class has been caught in the UC's net, other weaker classes have probably slipped through. Thus, in my opinion, the UC system should find another way to make sure it's applicants have adequate preparation for college level courses.</p>
<p>I never claimed to have any extensive experience. I would guess that most of us are not experts. But we try to evaluate current events to the best of our abilities and form opinions from the facts presented. That's the foundation of democracy, after all.</p>
<p>You did, indeed, sense sarcasm. I don't have a problem with your lack of experience, as I expect I have about the same, but that you say some private school you have no idea about probably has harder classes than so many public schools you also don't know about. That isn't fair to anybody. </p>
<p>Course evaluation is difficult. From what I know, each course is looked at to some degree. For a lot of public schools classes, teachers teach to standards which the state creates and gives to the UC system for evaluation. I'm sure other classes pass through the UCs net, and no system is perfect. I don't know how they should evaluate classes. They use tests, from the standardized SAT/SAT IIs and the SAT to the Subject A exam (or whatever they call it now). They also use grades, but then again the same problem of course difficulty, and also grade inflation, should come into play. I do agree with you if you think that more ways, and better ways, should be created to make sure kids are adequately prepared, but like every other school, kids are coming from a variety of backgrounds. The UC should do everything that it can, and I don't think it's doing that, really, I wouldn't know, but I dont' expect, at its best, every student will come out in equal stages of brilliance (not that I think you're advocating this). Anyway . . . this was an odd post.</p>