<p>that’s kinda shocking given South Carolina’s history</p>
<p>DCHurricane: It would be very easy to choose not to hire someone because they smoked without them knowing about it. Smokers are very obvious to non-smokers in a personal interview setting. The smell, the stained teeth, the stained fingernails, etc… Employers don’t have to reveal why they don’t hire someone, just like colleges don’t have to reveal why a student isn’t admitted. Currently employers and colleges are using social networking sites to find out more about potential employees and students and it is a growing trend. I think the same applies to employees who do not want to hire smokers. A drinker can hide his habit in an interview, but a smoker has a lot of trouble doing so. Besides, I haven’t heard of any “smoker” quota for any public or private organization.</p>
<p>I don’t think I’ve ever seen a smoker at Harvard. Maybe one, two max. But my lungs are the cleanest they’ve ever been when I’m there.</p>
<p>OK, before this goes off the featured discussion list, I will summarize. Please keep in mind that this is VERY unscientific and is based only on people’s impressions or opinions. Please only take it for what it is worth! (It is worth, probably, finding or doing a more scientific study!)</p>
<p>Factors associated with smoking include being:
a hipster
Korean
a European grad student
in New York</p>
<p>Colleges where people on this thread have the impression that there is a low smoking rate:
Pomona
Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
Michigan
U Chicago
UC San Diego
Pitt
UNC
BYU
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Stanford
Univ. Washington
U Texas
Cornell
Univ. South Carolina
Harvard
And, from asking students myself who were home for break:
Univ. Wisconsin
Clark
Yale</p>
<p>Colleges where people on this thread have the impression that there is a high smoking rate:
Univ. Alabama
Purdue
JWU
NYU
SUNY Fredonia
some othe SUNYs
Univ. Miami
Bard
St. John’s Annapolis
American U
Drexel
And, from asking students myself:
Oberlin</p>
<p>Colleges where it is unclear or contradictory according to people on this thread:
UVM
UPenn
Suffolk
UCLA
Bryn Mawr
Boston College</p>
<p>I should have asked more students who were home from break; I know and saw tons of them! Another thing that I am curious about: do the colleges in the highest smoking states (West Virginia, Kentucky, and Indiana - we have a report from Purdue and an unnamed college in WV) have the highest smoking rates?
If anyone has any more information, please share!</p>
<p>I go to Tulane and it seems that southerners are more often smokers than northerners. I think its in part because of the weather. Nobody wants to go outside to smoke when its 20 degrees outside. It could also be that smoking is only harmful to californians(read a pack of cigarettes). We don’t acknowledge northern(anywhere outside the south) science.</p>
<p>From what I and my son saw on an overnight visit, Reed College in OR had a ridiculous amount of students smoking cigarettes during the breaks between classes.</p>
<p>To our way of thinking, it just looked stupid.</p>
<p>add Dartmouth to the non smoker list.</p>
<p>@Lazydog it’s probably because back when this country started, tobacco was a major crop for many southern states. Old habits die hard, ya?</p>
<p>Correction - I apologize for the error- UChicago belongs with the high smoking list.</p>
<p>This thread is a reminder to keep smoking on the radar of things to look for when visiting schools. My kids have grown up in a social strata where tobacco smoking is rare; I doubt they can name two people who smoke among their friends and families. Colleges that have a large number of smokers will not appeal to my kids because of the associated odor and litter.</p>
<p>I can vouch for the earlier comment about smoking and nurses. I am a hospital based physician, and I will guess that 1/3 to 1/2 of nurses I work with smoke. Otoh, I cannot remember ever meeting a physician who smokes.</p>
<p>I feel like there are a lot of people who smoke here in Boston. Not only students, but the residents as well. I’ve seen many nurses, professors, etc. I myself smoked on and off, but I haven’t smoked in almost 3 months…I’d rather take that $9.50 and go to shows or eat out (a break from dining hall food!).</p>
<p>My friend who was a transfer from Sarah Lawrence said that EVERYONE smoked there. Also, there are 2 music colleges near where I am and the students congregate outside the building and smoke together; for one block, it’s just a cloud of smoke!</p>
<p>Personally, I don’t really care if people smoke or not. It’s their personal choice, and most of the smokers I know are actually respectful and try not to blow smoke in other people’s faces and won’t smoke around you if you’re not a smoker.</p>
<p>Maybe we should worry a little less about physical proclivities and a little more about being decent people. Americans seem largely unwilling to condemn any sort of behavior, no matter how repugnant, but are almost uniformly opposed to smoking. So strange.</p>
<p>Yeah. I’ve seen a lot more hate towards smokers than to drunk drivers, even though drunk drivers take more lives than smokers do.</p>
<p>****, I’ve sometimes heard more sympathy toward murderers than smokers.</p>
<p>St. John’s COLLEGE also has a very high smoking rate.</p>
<p>Princeton has very, very few smokers.</p>
<p>
Nope. There’s no legal protection for smokers. And today, I think there are plenty of employers who would strongly prefer to hire non-smokers.</p>
<p>I find it sad that cool “hipsters” are allowing themselves to be exploited by giant evil corporations in this way.</p>
<p>Amended Summary:
Colleges where people on this thread have the impression that there is a low smoking rate:
Pomona
Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
Michigan
UC San Diego
Pitt
UNC
BYU
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Stanford
Univ. Washington
U Texas
Cornell
Univ. South Carolina
Harvard
Dartmouth
Princeton
And, from asking students myself who were home for break:
Univ. Wisconsin
Clark
Yale</p>
<p>Colleges where people on this thread have the impression that there is a high smoking rate:
Univ. Alabama
Purdue
JWU
NYU
SUNY Fredonia
some othe SUNYs
Univ. Miami
Bard
St. John’s Annapolis
American U
Drexel
U Chicago
Reed
St. John’s College
Two music conservatories in Boston
And, from asking students myself:
Oberlin</p>
<p>Colleges where it is unclear or contradictory according to people on this thread:
UVM
UPenn
Suffolk
UCLA
Bryn Mawr
Boston College</p>
<p>In Florida:</p>
<p>UF has a total ban on tobacco on campus. Not outside, not in your car, not anywhere on campus at all.</p>
<p>UCF has a total open smoking policy. Allowed to smoke anywhere outside except in stadium and 10 ft from building entrances (which is state law not a campus policy)</p>
<p>The other state universities are somewhere between the two extremes.</p>
<p>DCHurricane, unless laws were enacted to the contrary, I know of at least two companies that will not hire employees who smoke. One of them is Alaska Airlines, which has reportedly done so for 25 years. </p>
<p>I’m really surprised that the University of South Carolina bans smoking. The south in general seems so much more smoker friendly, especially when tobacco prices are almost half compared to WA. I respect smokers, but I’d rather spend my money on other things.</p>
<p>One of these days I’m going to get a bottle of skunk odor and spray it at the next smoker I see</p>
<p>(triethylamine I guess would work just as well)</p>
<p>i wanna be like you when I grow up</p>