Class Entering in 2015 Acceptances and Final Decisions

College Majors Music Major
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Actually undergrads compete with grad students for admission to the Juilliard jazz program on all instruments. It’s a very small program, about 40-45 students total, and just a little over half of those are undergrads. In any given year, they will typically have only one or two openings across the whole program, undergrad and grad, for each of the main jazz instruments - piano, bass, drums, sax, trumpet and trombone. You’re right that the jazz guitar openings are even more limited. Right now I believe they only have three jazz guitarists in the whole program and only one is an undergrad. But the other instruments really aren’t much better in terms of odds of admission.

In any event, it looks like your son has an amazing array of choices, notwithstanding Juilliard’s decision not to take any jazz guitarists this year. He must be very talented! But it’s going to be a tough decision. There’s a case to be made for every one of the schools to which he’s been admitted.

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ANNA MARIA COLLEGE
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM

ARIZONA ST
musicalkids’ D, Cello Perf, BM
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), MT, BA,

BALDWIN WALLACE
cellomom6’s S Cello Perf, BM
bassnma684’s D Music Ther, Bassoon, BM
W2BeHome’s D, VP, BM
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM
destiny95, VP,BM

BARD
bigbro96’s S, Piano Perf, BM (dual degree)

BELMONT
rockinmab’s S, Comm Music, Guitar, BM
W2BeHome’s D, VP, BM
Helpfulmom’s D Belmont Comm Voice
Lucybelle’s S, VP,BM &Music Bus, BBA

BERKLEE
SongandDanceMom’s S, Comp, BM * *FINAL DECISION
**rockinmab’s S, Prof Music Maj, GuitarBM, FINAL DECISION
MplsMom’s S, Jazz Dbl Bass, BM
kestral44’ S, Guitar, BM
FormerDanceMom’s D, Voice/Songwriting, BM
JazzMom97’S, Jazz Trumpet, BM
Berklee: drummergirl’s S, Perf/Guitar, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM

BoCo
singerintheworks, VP, MM
redflute76, Flute Perf, MM
oscar63’s D, VP, BM
musicalkids’ D, Cello Perf, BM
ProudFluteMom’s D, Flute Perf, BM

BOSTON U
Bridgenail’s D,VP MM
Intune’s D, VP BM
kayleighpearl,Trumpet Perf, BM
sjd215, VP,BM
Bluemeringue’s S,Piano Perf, BM

UC BERKELEY
Tshiknn (Composition) BA Music

CAL ARTS
Tshiknn, Comp, BFA
TrumpDad’ S, Jazz Trumpet Perf, BFA

CAL ST, FULLERTON
steamco’s D, VP, BM

UC DAVIS
Tshiknn, Music (Composition), AB

UCLA
singerintheworks,VP, MM
Eclectra13, Ethnomusicology [World Music Conc], BA

UCSD
Electra13’s S, Music: ICAM, BA
Tshiknn, Music (Composition), BA

CMU
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), Vocal Perf, BFA
juillidame’s D, VP,BFA
Intune’s D, VP, BFA

CHAPMAN UNIV
steamco’s D, VP, BM

CCPA
cellomom6’s S Cello Perf, BM
FriscoFred’s D, VP, BM
oscar63’s D, VP, BM
mezzomiss,VP,BM
Smeaper’s D, VP, BM
loadingpianist, Piano Perf, BM
paintbrush22, VP, MM FINAL DECISION*

CCM
hsheck1, Piano Perf, BM
cellomom6’s S, Cllo Perf, BM
mezzomiss, VP ,BM

CIM
mezzomiss, VP, BM
ProudFluteMom’s D, Flute Perf, BM
dramageek27, VP, BM

CLEVELAND STATE UNIVERSITY
bassnma684’s D Music Ther, Bassoon, BM

UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO, BOULDER
PercussionGirl Vanderbilt, Percussion Perf, BM

COLUMBIA U
Tshiknn, Music (Comp),BA

UNIVERSITY OF DENVER (LAMONT)
Holberg’s D, VP, BM

DEPAUL
Mezzontherise,VP,BM
musicalkids’D, Cello Perf, BM

DEPAUW
Cellomom6’s S. Cello Perf. BM
Mezzontherise, VP, BM

DUSQUESNE (MARY PAPPART)
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM

EASTMAN
JAMusicBox’s D, VP, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM

ELIZABETHTOWN
musictherapymom’s D, Elizabethtown, Music Therapy/Trombone BM

FLORIDA STATE
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), Music, BA
W2BeHome’s D, VP, BM

UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA (HODGSON)
Paintbrush22, VP, MM
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), VP, BM,

HARTT
vocalist9597, VP/Music Ed, BM
W2BeHome’s DPf, BM
redflute76, Flute Perf, MM
Intune’s D, VP, BM
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BM

U OF HOUSTON
JAMusicBox’s D, VP, BM

U of ILLINOIS URBANA–CHAMPAIGN
cellomom6’ S, Cello Perf, BM
Ideason88, Piano Perf, BM

ILLINOIS STATE
loadingpianist, Piano Perf, BM

INDIANA U(JACOBS)
2015Lalo , Cello Perf, BM
MahlerMahler, Viola Perf, BM
cellomom6’s S Cello Perf, BM
juillidame’s D, VP, BM
Smeaper’s D, VP BM
Bridgenail’s D,VP MM
leel59820, Piano Perf, BM

ITHACA COLLEGE
momsing’s S, Double Bass Perf, BM FINAL*
islandmom32’S, Drum Set/Sound Recording Tech BM FINAL DECISION
FriscoFred’s D, VP, BM
Intune’s D, VP, BM
eternalmom, S, Violin Perf/Music Ed BM

JUILLIARD
mezzomiss, VP,BM
OperaAdri, VP, BM
convertedjazzdad’s S

LAWRENCE
Smeaper’s D. VP, BM
Holberg’s D, VP, BM

LONGY SCHOOL OF MUSIC
redflute76, Flute Perf, MM

LOUISIANA STATE
JAMusicBox’s D, VP BM FINAL DECISION
jazzcomboman92 Trumpet MM Perf

LOYOLA UNIVERSITY,NEW ORLEANS
Saintfan’s S, Popular &Commercial Music BSM, Jazz Studies Minor FINAL DECISION

MANHATTAN SCHOOL OF MUSIC
bigbro96’s S, Piano Perf, BM
ProudFluteMom’s D, Flute Perf, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
hmh3515’s D, VP.MM

MANNES
bigbro96’s S, Piano Perf, BM
mceejay’s S, Composition, BM
singerintheworks, VP, MM
bridgenail’s D, VP. MM

MARYWOOD
MUSICTHERAPYMOM’S D MUSIC THERAPY-TROMBONE,BM* FINAL DECISION ,

U OF MASSACHUSETTS-AMHERST
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BM

McGILL
Tshiknn, Comp,BM

U OF MIAMI/ FROST
OperaAdri, VP, BM
Lucybelle’s S, VP &Music Bus, BM
helpfulmom’s D, VP Music Bus & Entert, BM Contemp Music
paintbrush22, VP, MM

U OF MICHIGAN
Violet4’s S, Jazz Studies, Piano, BFA
juillidame’s D, VP, BM
JAMusicBox’s D, VP, BM

U OF MINNESOTA
cellomom6’s S, Cello Perf, BM
ashermitchell, Sax/Music Ed, BM
Bridgenail’s D,VP MM

U OF MISSISSIPPI
ashermitchell, Sax/Music Ed, BM

U OF MISSOURI-KC
flute123, Flute Perf, DMA

NAZARETH COLLEGE
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM

UNLV
TrumpDad’ S,Jazz Trumpet Perf, BM

U OF NEVADA, RENO
TrumpDad’ S, Jazz Trumpet Perf, BM

NEC
juillidame’s D, VP, BM
steamco’s D, VP, BM
drummergirl’s S, Contemp Improv, BM
mceejay’s S, Comp, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM

THE NEW SCHOOL FOR JAZZ
TrumpDad’S, Jazz Trumpet, BFA
JazzMom97’S, Jazz Trumpet, BFA
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BFA
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
Violet4’S, Jazz Piano, BFA/BA

NYU
Violet4’s S, Jazz Studies, Piano, BM
Tshiknn, Comp,BM

U OF NORTHERN COLORADO
TrumpDad’ S, Jazz Trumpet Perf, BM

NORTHWESTERN (BIENEN)
2015Lalo’s son, Cello Perf, BM
Intune’s D, VP, BM
UmmaBlue3’s D, VP, BM

OBERLIN
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BM
MahlerMahler, Viola Perf, BM
Tshiknn, Composition, BM
Holberg’s D, VP, BM
Intune’s D, VP, BM
steamco’s D, VP, BM
bigbro96’s S, Piano Perf, BM
JAMusicBox’s D, Vocal Perf, BM
bigbro96’s S, Piano Perf, BM (dual)
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM

OHIO ST
coloratura_as, VP, DMA

PEABODY
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM

RICE U-SHEPHERD
hmh3515’s D, VP.MMFINAL DECISION

RUTGERS (MASON GROSS)
Intune’s D, VP, BM
bigbro96’s S, Piano Perf, BM

SAN DIEGO ST U
Electra13, Global Comp, BM

SFCM
sopranobie, VP, MM
Bridgenail’s D,VP, MM
kayleighpearl,Trumpet Perf, BM
jazzcomboman92 Trumpet MM Perf

SUNY FREDONIA
vocalist9597, VP/Music Ed, BM
eternalmom, S, Violin Perf/Music Ed BM

SUNY POTSDAM (CRANE)
vocalist9597, VP/Ed, BM
eternalmom, S, Violin Perf/Music Ed BM
sjd215, VP/Music Ed,BM
Holberg’s D, VP, BM

SUNY PURCHASE
Tshiknn, Composition, BM
JazzMom97’S, Jazz Trumpet Jazz Studies, BM
eternalmom, S,Violin Perf, BM

UNCG
iluvpiano, Piano Perf, MM
mezzomiss, VP, BM
jazzcomboman92 Trumpet MM Perf

UNT
cellmom6’s S, Cello Perf ,BM
FriscoFred’s D, VP, BM

SAN DIEGO ST
angryporcupine’s S, Music Technology, BM

SETON HILL U
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Therapy, BM

SHENANDOAH
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Therapy, BM

USC/THORNTON
Tshiknn, USC Thornton, Composition, BM
Bluemeringue’s S, Piano Perf, BM
steamco’s D, VP, BM
kaleypearl,Trumpet Perf,BM
Electra13 S, Pop Music, Guitar, BM
kestral44’s S, Pop. Music, Guitar, BM

SOUTHERN ILLINOIS U
loadingpianist, Piano Perf, BM

SMU
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), VP, BM

STANFORD
Tshiknn, Music(Comp),BA

SYRACUSE
Intune’s D, VP, BM
bigbro96’ s S, Piano Perf, BM

TEMPLE (BOYER)
Intune’s D,Vocal Perf,BM
sjd215, Vocal Perf/Music Ed,BM

U OF TEXAS, AUSTIN
PercussionGirl Vanderbilt, Percussion Perf, BM
Ideason88, Piano Perf, BM

VANDERBILT (BLAIR)
Bluemeringue’s S, Piano Perf, BM
PercussionGirl, Percussion Perf, BM

WEST CHESTER STATE
vocalist9597,Vocal Perf/Music Ed, BM

WESTERN CONNECTICUT STATE
Irishmomof2’s D,Music Therapy,BM
JazzMom97’s S, Jazz Trumpet Jazz Studies, BM

WHEATON COLLEGE
Smeaper’s D, Vocal Perf, BM

WILLIAM PATERSON
JazzMom97’s S, Jazz Trumpet Jazz Studies, BM

UNIV WISCONSIN/MADISON
iluvpiano, Piano Perf, MM
Violet4’s S, Jazz Studies, Piano BA Music

COLLEGE OF WOOSTER
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Therapy, BM

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@rockinmomab It’s all scholarship, no financial aid. Berklee is very generous we know many students who got significant scholarships.

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A statement like “XYX school is very generous” can be hurtful to students who were admitted without scholarship. What does it mean to say that a school is “generous”? Schools give tuition discounts to some students and not others, and it’s hard to assess from the outside their rationale for awarding what they do in any given case. To say they are “generous” is a figure or speech, but in reality they are not giving money; they are charging tuition and giving discounts to some. There are parents on this board whose students had to turn down offers of admission to Berklee (and other places) because they did not get enough or any merit aid/scholarship.

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The constant array of you “hurt my feelings” on this forum are making me feel like I’m in middle school again. I understand tact, and trying to be respectful of others- but the fact of the matter is we are all at different points on our path and we are not all going to get everything. Let someone say whatever they wanna say and if you don’t like it, move on. My God.

I’m sorry if this is harsh, I am, but I’m so tired of parents acting like hurt little kids. And I’m one of the kids.Thank God for Mezzo’sMama or the pointing fingers would have gotten much worse over the season.

Everyone will fit in somewhere and everyone will make their own path. Some get lucky early on and some get lucky later on, just go with it!

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Actually, paintbrush, people are rarely reprimanded on this forum. I personally love how supportive and nice people are on this forum and that is why I am here .

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Oh I agree almost everyone is very nice and supportive! That’s not really the point I was making.

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I also love how nice and supportive people are in this forum, but I agree that it’s possible to be oversensitive. And while people obviously should not be mean, I would not want fear of the possibility of hurting someone’s feelings to deter the sharing of useful information. I thought @TrumpDad’s post was perfectly fine and provided useful information as to Berklee’s scholarship practices.

And just to elaborate on that topic (if my info on this is outdated, someone should please correct me): Berklee has historically been known for “buying” some of the most talented high school jazz musicians with generous scholarships, including for kids who did not qualify for need-based aid. There’s no doubt they have a great program and great faculty and get some very talented kids. But it’s also a very large program, and they have (or had) a reputation for also admitting full-pay kids – with no scholarship – who were not at the same level as the kids who got the merit money. Which sometimes created issues with the kids who weren’t at the top level having a disappointing experience as they found they didn’t have the same access to the best faculty, combos and other opportunities. This reputation leads me to the view that if my kid were admitted to Berklee with no scholarship money, I might think twice about sending him there, even if I could afford it. Again, this is based on reputation, and could be outdated or off-base, but I think certainly an issue to look into further for anyone in that situation.

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@jazzpianodad WOW! You have now put down every student who has gotten into Berklee by spreading “HEARSAY” about one of the top contemporary music schools in the world. Unless you have first-hand knowledge, you should not be sharing such a claim. I have enjoyed this forum but think its time to make my exit as I have found some of the parents on here who think that unless you are attending a school with a classical program that you are somehow not as good. Unbelievable! For the record…I have heard and seen a lot of opinions and information on Berklee and have NEVER come across anyone who has made this claim and we have been researching this school for many years.

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A lot of these school’s scholarships are need informed because of the level of talent. We purposely did not apply to those programs because we make too much money and while he could have gotten more merit , at application time we chose not to take the risk. Although, we probably should have

And rockingmomab is not allowed to quit this forum. I am not a classical snob and I would miss you. You were mad at Ohio State for me when you could have told me to suck it up. That was sweet. And let’s not get distracted . This is starting to remind me of football parents.

And to suggest you shouldn’t go somewhere because you didn’t get merit doesn’t make sense. It is more complicated than that.

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@rockinmomab, let me offer an apology, as I honestly did not intend my comments as a put-down in any way. I agree that Berklee is one of the top contemporary music schools in the world and I tried to say that. I have a great deal of respect for the school. I also think that it’s a fact of life that not every high school musician is equally talented. My son was not a high school music “superstar”. But he was admitted to several good music schools, including Berklee, which offered him a decent scholarship even though he was not eligible for need-based aid. He had similarly situated friends who were offered more. Some of the schools where he was admitted were less generous, including one that offered him nothing. He (and we) took the scholarship offers, in comparison to what others were offered at the same school, as at least some indication as to how much each school wanted him. I do think it’s a relevant issue that goes beyond the question of whether the student can afford to attend. I also acknowledged that I could be off-base or that my information could be dated. But we did a lot of research as well and heard this as a recurring theme – albeit several years ago. Again, I did not intend to offend and I’m sorry that I obviously did.

@cellomom6, I agree that the scholarship policies at different schools vary, including the extent to which they are need-informed, which is why I think information on the policies at different schools is useful.

And for everyone else, if you think I was harsh or out of line, I’d be happy to take a “time out” and stop posting for a while. I really don’t want to be responsible for driving anyone out of the forum.

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@rockinmomab - I think you’re doing @jazzpianodad a disservice. This has long been Berklee’s reputation concerning scholarships - but the reputation has, admittedly, been changing in recent years. It doesn’t mean a student can’t succeed at Berklee if they’re not a top applicant coming in.

Also, the idea that a father of a jazz pianist is thinking that jazz is somehow lesser than classical doesn’t make sense.

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Nobody hurt my feelings, @Paintbrush22-- I don’t have a horse in that race, as they say. It was just a reminder about making vague sweeping statements about a school’s “generosity.” People rarely cite actual amounts (and I don’t think they should). But one person’s idea of a generous scholarship might be $8,000. Another’s might $33,000. These vague statements pump up everyone’s anxiety (well, not mine–no horse in the race, etc.)

Yes, some students get tuition discounts based on merit and some pay full tuition. Despite the common colloquialism, schools don’t “give” money (or rarely do they–Colburn provides free room and board, as does Juilliard’s Kovner scholarship, so that would literally count as “giving” money.) Otherwise, it’s a business decision to offer tuition discounts to selected students, for a myriad of reasons including elevating the level of the student body and increasing yield.

As for Berklee, I’ve watched a number of parents and students make painful financial decisions concerning this institution; that was what was on my mind when I posted.

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awww rockinmomab, don’t leave. I don’t think jazzpianodad meant it that way. Honestly I have found scholarships to be an even more interesting experience than the acceptances themselves.

I think what he said about Berklee (and I have NO idea about Berklee so I won’t give an opinion) is definitely true for some vocal programs though. That’s all I really know about, is voice. My teacher in high school went to a very well known school in NYC and actually told me first hand that he wasn’t good enough to go there but the school somehow knew they could afford it (and they could…) and his parents paid the 40k/year… AS AN UNDERGRAD. Yikes. He learned a lot and is obviously very good, but he did admit to struggling through the program and I think his point was to try and let the kids know that sometimes, it’s just not about them. This advice stuck with me.

Anyway, that was just an experience I had and figured I’d share it. Who knows how they decide who gets how much of a scholarship, I know that I thought there was one large public school I was pretty sure I’d get money from, and… nada :frowning:

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glassharmonica- that is true! my idea of a generous scholarship is PAY ME TO COME, TUITION PLUS LIVING STIPEND!! :stuck_out_tongue: of course I didn’t get that anywhere lol

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Just to be clear without going into detail my son is “what you call a top applicant” at Berklee. Ordinarily I wouldn’t say something like that but since this is where it’s going. I used the wrong wording when stating “classical” program. Meant to say strictly “classical/jazz”. This forum, I thought, was to celebrate each and every acceptance and not to bad mouth others. Seems to be turning a different direction. The amount of scholarship $$ should not even be discussed or how or why one school goes about determining such. I think its safe to say none of us know. There are some really nice, helpful people here but don’t appreciate the snobby attitude of others. To say that if your child didn’t receive the most $$$ he or she would have a lesser experience is just ludicrous and quite frankly not a welcomed opinion. All of these students successes should just be celebrated!!!

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I have no experience with classical programs, but I know that in jazz programs - especially the smaller ones - scholarship offers will vary depending on the instrument. If the department needs three trombone players and no more drummers, it may offer significantly more merit aid to a trombone player than to an equally talented and accomplished percussionist. You shouldn’t take it personally, even though it’s hard not to, especially if you have peers who are getting more.

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Rockinmomab I understand how you feel and I am sorry if I contributed to the negativity. I do want to celebrate everyone’s successes and mourn with their failures (er… lack of successes).

I would like to point out though, it’s been very helpful for me to hear some of the negative things. I know in voice, those who have the assistantships and scholarships are the one’s that get casted. That matters A LOT to vocal perf majors and I would like to know if a school is notorious for such behavior when making my decision.

I really wanted to go to Mannes, but I’m sorry, no program to me is worth 60k in loans per year (when you consider living expenses) Especially if I have to wait in line for a role behind the scholarship recipients! And last month when OperaAdri received her acceptance WAY before mine into Frost, yeah that sucks for me to have waited three extra weeks but hey, it made it special when I finally got mine :slight_smile:

Anyway, I do understand that it is displeasing to hear some things. I just wanted to share my opinion because I would like it if people continued to be honest about their experiences and opinions.

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@paintbrush22‌ thanks but you didn’t contribute in any way! I find you to be a very insightful young woman with a good head on her shoulders:). Good luck to you!

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As a financial planner I find this conversation soooo interesting. I’m home sick today. I’m sure it has nothing to do with stress!! Haha. Here is an obvious statement. Money is a highly emotional topic. It is unfortunately in our culture related to your value as a person or even worse the “value” of your child! It can’t get anymore personal than that. So any hurt feelings are understandable. But we are “curious” creatures. Most of us want to know what everyone else is doing, getting to make a decision. this is part of all sales training “Most people…but you can do what you want”. Many people cant decide until they know what “most people” are doing. I can see the relief on people’s face when I give stats on other peoples behavior. So I don’t think there is away to get away with the curiosity. It’s a part of financial decsion making. One final note: the majority of people lie about some aspect of their financial lives. Even when I have the figures right in front of me. Good luck to all in the financial decsion. Just remember debt robs from the future. Manage it carefully.