I am still waiting on UCLA, so you are definitely not alone!
It’s still up in the air for my son
Sending peaceful decision making and clarity vibes your way, @cellomom6 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all. My D has made her choice but I am not ready to make it official yet. Is there any benefit in committing before May 1 or is it safe to wait and see if the financial package gets any better (chances are it probably won’t ).
That’s what I wonder too.
Hornet is correct. Most parents and students don’t understand that the common practice is to over-admit by a certain percentage, which may vary by instrument, and also (with yield in mind) to offer more scholarship than is really available. They do this with an expectation, backed by years of data, that there will be a predictable number of declines. If everyone did accept they’d be in trouble! (And occasionally there are more acceptances than expected, which can knock things out of kilter, financially, for students in the following year.
I’m a lurker on a grad school Facebook group in another arts discipline and it’s painful to watch lately as people magnanimously proclaim “I’m turning down offers at XYZ and PDQ. Look for a spot to open up with funding and stipend.” No, there is not a one-to-one correlation because schools also factor in their predicted yield.
I hate it when they make those announcements because it propagates false hope followed by disappointment. Last year my daughter was admitted to some tuition-free + (small) stipend MM programs and to her top choice, which had a good but not full scholarship. She requested and was able to get a full tuition by April 15, but many very deserving students were not, and then had to make difficult decisions about whether to delay grad school or take on more debt. In my daughter’s case it surely helped that she was a known quantity (it was the same school as her undergrad) and that they knew she would have been forced otherwise to go elsewhere. Generally an appeal may increase scholarship by a few thousand, as Hornet indicates. In a few cases, it may be more. It never hurts to ask if you have a compelling reason (other than just wanting to save money–because everyone has that reason) but if you are merely passively waiting for a school to offer a bigger scholarship, intune, that is not likely to occur.
We found this to be true at one school. I was told to check at the end of April to see if enough declines came through. It’s a little sad to give up on your favorite teacher but money does become an issue. I think my son is 95% sure now unless he changes his mind again.lol.
I just finished talking with my son. One thing to keep in mind is the fact that often, with admissions, there is more to a music admission than simply how well you play or sing. For example, one of S’s friends (who plays on about the same level as S) was waitlisted at S’s program but offered 8K more than S was at another known program. Often there is an unexplainable connection between the teacher and the student or the college has an assistantship opening and are looking for a particular skill set to fill that role. Sometimes teachers from different “do favors” for each other by accepting students. Whatever the reason, it is important to find a way to not personalize rejections or low offerings. There is more going on behind the curtain than the applicant is aware of.
Wow, more missing words and typos. My apologies for the hasty posts.
OK, it’s official. My D returned her signed scholarship letter an hour ago and I just paid the enrollment and housing deposits. She is telling her vocal teacher in a few hours.
FriscoFred’s D, CCPA, Vocal Performance, BM *** Final Decision *** <:-P
Yay! Congratulations.
Congrats!
Congratulations to your daughter and you @FriscoFred !!
FriscoFred I will have to be introduced to her in the Fall! 
Cant wait!
Great news FriscoFred!
Chicago is such a great city–how exciting to attend college there at such a wonderful institution. Congrats to you, too paintbrush22!
These are late, but I have been traveling a lot to make up sample lessons that I could not get at auditions.
Lawrence Conservatory of Music, BM, Piano Performance
Bowling Green State University, BM, Piano Performance
Weber State University, BM, Piano Performance
Cleveland Institute of Music, BM, Piano Performance
ANNA MARIA COLLEGE
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM
ARIZONA ST
musicalkids’ D, Cello, BM
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), MT, BA,
BALDWIN WALLACE
cellomom6’s S Cello, BM
bassnma684’s D Music Ther, Bassoon, BM
W2BeHome’s D, VP, BM
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM
destiny95, VP,BM
BARD
bigbro96’s S, Piano , BM (dual degree)
BELMONT
rockinmab’s S, Comm Music, Guitar, BM
W2BeHome’s D, VP, BM
Helpfulmom’s D Belmont Comm Voice
Lucybelle’s S, VP,BM &Music Bus, BBA
BERKLEE
SongandDanceMom’s S, Comp, BM * *FINAL
**rockinmab’s S, Prof Music Maj, GuitarBM, FINAL
MplsMom’s S, Jazz Dbl Bass, BM
kestral44’ S, Guitar, BM
FormerDanceMom’s D, Voice/Songwriting, BM
JazzMom97’S, Jazz Trumpet, BM
Berklee: drummergirl’s S, Perf/Guitar, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
BoCo
singerintheworks, VP, MM
redflute76, Flute, MM
oscar63’s D, VP, BM
musicalkids’ D, Cello, BM
ProudFluteMom’s D, Flute, BM
BOSTON U
Bridgenail’s D,VP MM
Intune’s D, VP BM
kayleighpearl,Trumpet, BM
sjd215, VP,BM
Bluemeringue’s S,Piano, BM
BOWLING GREEN ST U
Ideason88,Piano,BM
UC BERKELEY
Tshiknn (Comp) BA Music
CAL ARTS
Tshiknn, Comp, BFA
TrumpDad’ S, Jazz Trumpet Perf, BFA
CAL ST, FULLERTON
steamco’s D, VP, BM
UC DAVIS
Tshiknn, Music (Comp), AB
UCLA
singerintheworks,VP, MM
Eclectra13, Ethnomusicology, BA
UCSD
Electra13’s S, Music: ICAM, BA
Tshiknn, Music (Comp), BA
CMU
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), VP, BFA
juillidame’s D, VP,BFA
Intune’s D, VP, BFA
CHAPMAN U
steamco’s D, VP, BM
CCPA
cellomom6’s S Cello Perf, BM
FriscoFred’s D, VP, BMFINAL
oscar63’s D, VP, BM
mezzomiss,VP,BM
Smeaper’s D, VP, BM
loadingpianist, Piano, BM
paintbrush22, VP, MM FINAL *
CCM
hsheck1, Piano, BM
cellomom6’s S, Cello, BM
mezzomiss, VP ,BM
FluteGuy6491 Flute, MM
CIM
mezzomiss, VP, BM
ProudFluteMom’s D, Flute, BM
dramageek27, VP, BM
Ideason88, Piano,BM
CLEVELAND STATE UNIVERSITY
bassnma684’s D Music Ther, Bassoon, BM
UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO, BOULDER
PercussionGirl Vanderbilt, Percussion, BM
COLUMBIA U
Tshiknn, Music (Comp),BA
U DENVER (LAMONT)
Holberg’s D, VP, BM
DEPAUL
Mezzontherise,VP,BM
musicalkids’D, Cello, BM
DEPAUW
Cellomom6’s S. Cello. BM
Mezzontherise, VP, BM
DUSQUESNE (MARY PAPPART)
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM
EASTMAN
JAMusicBox’s D, VP, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Guitar,BM
ELIZABETHTOWN
musictherapymom’s D, Music Therapy/Trombone BM
FLORIDA STATE
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), Music, BA
W2BeHome’s D, VP, BM
U OF GEORGIA (HODGSON)
Paintbrush22, VP, MM
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), VP, BM,
HARTT
vocalist9597, VP/Music Ed, BM
W2BeHome’s DPf, BM
redflute76, Flute, MM
Intune’s D, VP, BM
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BM
U OF HOUSTON
JAMusicBox’s D, VP, BM
U of ILLINOIS URBANA–CHAMPAIGN
cellomom6’ S, Cello, BM
Ideason88, Piano, BM
ILLINOIS STATE
loadingpianist, Piano, BM
INDIANA(JACOBS)
2015Lalo , Cello, BM
MahlerMahler, Viola, BM
cellomom6’s S Cello, BM
juillidame’s D, VP, BM
Smeaper’s D, VP BM
Bridgenail’s D,VP MM
leel59820, Piano, BM
ITHACA COLLEGE
momsing’s S, Double Bass, BM FINAL*
islandmom32’S, Drum Set/Sound Recording Tech BM FINAL
FriscoFred’s D, VP, BM
Intune’s D, VP, BM
eternalmom, S, Violin/Music Ed BM
JUILLIARD
mezzomiss, VP,BM
OperaAdri, VP, BM
convertedjazzdad’s S
LAWRENCE
Smeaper’s D. VP, BM
Holberg’s D, VP, BM
Ideason88, Piano
LONGY SCHOOL OF MUSIC
redflute76, Flute, MM
LOUISIANA STATE
JAMusicBox’s D, VP BM FINAL
jazzcomboman92 Trumpet MM
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY,NEW ORLEANS
Saintfan’s S, Popular &Commercial Music BSM, Jazz Studies Minor FINAL
U OF MARYLAND
FluteGuy6491 Flute, MM
MANHATTAN SCHOOL OF MUSIC
bigbro96’s S, Piano, BM
ProudFluteMom’s D, Flute, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
hmh3515’s D, VP.MM
MANNES
bigbro96’s S, Piano, BM
mceejay’s S, Comp, BM
singerintheworks, VP, MM
bridgenail’s D, VP. MM
MARYWOOD
MUSICTHERAPYMOM’S D MUSIC THERAPY-TROMBONE,BM* FINAL
U OF MASSACHUSETTS-AMHERST
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BM
McGILL
Tshiknn, Comp,BM
U OF MIAMI/ FROST
OperaAdri, VP, BM
Lucybelle’s S, VP &Music Bus, BM
helpfulmom’s D, VP Music Bus & Entert, BM Contemp Music
paintbrush22, VP, MM
U OF MICHIGAN
Violet4’s S, Jazz Studies, Piano, BFA
juillidame’s D, VP, BM
JAMusicBox’s D, VP, BM
U OF MINNESOTA
cellomom6’s S, Cello, BM
ashermitchell, Sax/Music Ed, BM
Bridgenail’s D,VP MM
U OF MISSISSIPPI
ashermitchell, Sax/Music Ed, BM
U OF MISSOURI-KC
flute123, Flute, DMA
NAZARETH COLLEGE
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Ther, BM
UNLV
TrumpDad’ S,Jazz Trumpet, BM
U OF NEVADA, RENO
TrumpDad’ S, Jazz Trumpet, BM
NEC
juillidame’s D, VP, BM
steamco’s D, VP, BM
drummergirl’s S, Contemp Improv, BM
mceejay’s S, Comp, BM
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
THE NEW SCHOOL FOR JAZZ
TrumpDad’S, Jazz Trumpet, BFA
JazzMom97’S, Jazz Trumpet, BFA
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BFA
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
Violet4’S, Jazz Piano, BFA/BA
NYU
Violet4’s S, Jazz Studies, Piano, BM
Tshiknn, Comp,BM
U OF NORTHERN COLORADO
TrumpDad’ S, Jazz Trumpet, BM
NORTHWESTERN (BIENEN)
2015Lalo’s son, Cello, BM
Intune’s D, VP, BM
UmmaBlue3’s D, VP, BM
OBERLIN
drummergirl’s S, Jazz Guitar, BM
MahlerMahler, Viola, BM
Tshiknn, Composition, BM
*Holberg’s D, VP, BMFINAL
Intune’s D, VP, BM
steamco’s D, VP, BM
bigbro96’s S, Piano, BM
JAMusicBox’s D, VP, BM
bigbro96’s S, Piano, BM (dual)
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
OHIO ST
coloratura_as, VP, DMA
PEABODY
GotThatSwing,Jazz Gtr,BM
FluteGuy6491 Flute, MMFINAL
RICE U-SHEPHERD
hmh3515’s D, VP.MMFINAL
RUTGERS (MASON GROSS)
Intune’s D, VP, BM
bigbro96’s S, Piano , BM
SAN DIEGO ST U
Electra13, Global Comp, BM
SFCM
sopranobie, VP, MM
Bridgenail’s D,VP, MM
kayleighpearl,Trumpet, BM
jazzcomboman92 Trumpet MM
SUNY FREDONIA
vocalist9597, VP/Music Ed, BM
eternalmom, S, Violin /Music Ed BM
SUNY POTSDAM (CRANE)
vocalist9597, VP/Ed, BM
eternalmom, S, Violin/Music Ed BM
sjd215, VP/Music Ed,BM
Holberg’s D, VP, BM
SUNY PURCHASE
Tshiknn, Composition, BM
JazzMom97’S, Jazz Trumpet Jazz Studies, BM
eternalmom, S,Violin, BM
UNCG
iluvpiano, Piano, MM
mezzomiss, VP, BM
jazzcomboman92 Trumpet MM Perf
UNT
cellmom6’s S, Cello ,BM
FriscoFred’s D, VP, BM
SAN DIEGO ST
angryporcupine’s S, Music Tech, BM
SETON HILL U
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Therapy, BM
SHENANDOAH
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Therapy, BM
USC/THORNTON
Tshiknn, USC Thornton, Comp, BM
Bluemeringue’s S, Piano, BM
steamco’s D, VP, BM
kaleypearl,Trumpet Perf,BM
Electra13 S, Pop Music, Guitar, BM
kestral44’s S, Pop. Music, Guitar, BM
U of SOUTH CAROLINA
FluteGuy6491 Flute, MM
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS U
loadingpianist, Piano, BM
SMU
CollegeDadofTwo’s D(2), VP, BM
STANFORD
Tshiknn, Music(Comp),BA
SYRACUSE
Intune’s D, VP, BM
bigbro96’ s S, Piano, BM
TEMPLE (BOYER)
Intune’s D,VP,BM
sjd215, VP/Music Ed,BM
U TEXAS, AUSTIN
PercussionGirl Vanderbilt, Percussion, BM
Ideason88, Piano, BM
VANDERBILT (BLAIR)
Bluemeringue’s S, Piano, BM
PercussionGirl, Percussion, BM
WEBER ST
Ideason88,Piano,BM
WEST CHESTER ST
vocalist9597,Vocal Perf/Music Ed, BM
W CONN ST
Irishmomof2’s D,Music Therapy,BM
JazzMom97’s S, Jazz Trumpet Jazz Studies, BM
WHEATON COLL
Smeaper’s D, Vocal Perf, BM
WILLIAM PATERSON
JazzMom97’s S, Jazz Trumpet Jazz Studies, BM
U WISCONSIN/MADISON
iluvpiano, Piano Perf, MM
Violet4’s S, Jazz Studies, Piano BA
COLLEGE OF WOOSTER
Irishmomof2’s D, Music Therapy, BM
Congrats to everyone! can someone point me in the right direction, does anyone have knowledge of BW’s Vocal Performance program? Or know of someone who studies or has studied there for voice? Thank you!
So I made up my final decision and I will be attending Ithaca College for a BM in Vocal performance and music Ed!