Class of 2019 Rejections, Denials etc.

College Majors Musical Theater Major
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@Carltonism‌ , I’m so sorry for you and your D–and others. The image of holding your D while she cries herself to sleep is heartbreaking, as is her question of “why would God allow her to go down this road when He knew (she) was not good enough.”

My D and I had been told before auditions and prescreens started not to look towards this process as an affirmation of talent, that many things unrelated to talent come into play in the audition room: too many in the program of your D’s type or look, your D looks too young or too anything (my D was rejected at one because she looks young and they want an older look), your D reminds an adjucator of someone with whom they’ve had difficulty, an adjucator is bored or hungry or grumpy at that time–anything. Plus, my D’s coaches say that people going into this should also not to look towards these others for affirmation because the auditioner should need to do this because she absolutely loves it and can’t imagine doing anything else. Therefore, she will find any path towards it. Those words probably won’t help your D right now, but, after a bit of time, I hope that she clings to them and goes for her dream!

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Wait, wouldn’t it make sense for colleges to want young looking students? I don’t understand why they would go for a more mature look across the board when they probably need people who can play children for their shows. Plus, if those kids graduate looking young, there’s a lot of work they can get based off that. I’ve been told that it’s better to look younger because you won’t have to compete with more experienced actors for roles. I feel like it’s almost impractical for a school to go for a more “mature” look, although I can’t really play younger than 17 myself. This has been on the brain as a very talented and young looking friend of mine is beginning the process!

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I know a couple kids who are 17 / 18, but who look really young. They are going through the audition process, but are actually leaning more toward trying to go straight to work while they can take advantage of playing younger roles and building resume.

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@MTVT2015 - I think @myloves was just citing that as a possible example of the randomness why you might not get accepted at a particular program. And just as some programs might prefer a more mature look - others may find the young look one of the most valuable attributes of an applicant. I don’t think her point was that young looking auditioners don’t get into programs - just that it’s a factor that COULD keep you out of some programs (and could get you in to others!) I know a young looking auditioner this season who has several offers from which to choose!

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@kategrizz‌ has it right. That being said, @MTVT2015‌, one would think that a youthful look would have an advantage–I agree with all you said–but there are a couple schools that I know for a fact are going for an older, more sophisticated or even sexy look. I personally know faculty members at two particular schools that go for this look, including the one that rejected my D (which is the only reason I know exactly why she was rejected).

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Right, it totally differs from program to program. I actually love what @myloves was saying! So true. Sometimes I would walk into an audition room and just feel them stop considering me for whatever reason totally beyond my control. And you just have to accept that you’re not going to be able to show your whole/best self at every audition, whether that’s being cut off or sick or not interviewed or not dancing at Unifieds.

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MTVT: my daughter entered Tisch at age 16. She looked her age (or could pass for younger). As an aside, I recall being on a shuttle bus at an airport for a college audition and we were the only ones on the bus and the driver asked my kid what brings us to that city and she said to audition for college and he said he thought she was 12!! LOL Anyway, at NYU, she played the lead in the MainStage musical her junior year (she was 19) and the role was a 12 year old. Then again, the 12 year old was dressing and acting MUCH older and having simulated sex on stage.

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Southwestern University in Georgetown, TX is still accepting applications. They do offer a BFA but you enter into it sophomore year. Georgetown is about 30 minutes north of Austin. LOTS of theatre in central Texas! My D has friends who graduated from Southwestern who loved their experience. I’ve seen several really terrific productions there, and of course see Southwestern kids in lots of Austin theatre productions.
http://www.southwestern.edu/sarofim/

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Got a “no” from Elon this morning via Acceptd. Elon’s portal last night changed to “congratulations, you’ve been admitted” but it was obviously just the academic acceptance. Thanks to CC, I found out that rejections were being posted on Acceptd while acceptance phone calls were going out for MT. At least I didn’t have to wonder any longer whether we should wait for the phone to ring or cross Elon off the list.

Thank you to everyone here who is posting updates, good or bad, keeping the rest of us in the loop even when schools give confusing messages about how they notify students.

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Certainly hope your kid didn’t get his hopes up from the portal. Always worse to get a “yes!” … Then an “Oh wait… Sry… No.” This game is rough enough without all that.
Onward and upward.

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This is my first post. Been lurking. I won’t be posting anything specific about my son’s acceptances and rejections until the end, but he does have both. I feel terrible for these kids that are getting nothing but no’s. It may be too late, but there are a lot of non-audition schools out there with very good programs. I’ve read it on other threads, but maybe it should be on every thread: Put a non-audition safety school on your list.

As far as wait lists go, I think it depends on how many acceptances the schools have put out for how many spots. There are a lot of kids with multiple acceptances. They are only going to one school each. Spots will open up in the middle of April when everyone is making their final decisions.

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Hi, @TapperDad‌ and welcome!! :-h

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just came across this blog post and thought I’d share–hang in there everyone! xoxo

http://thoughtcatalog.com/bianca-sewake/2015/03/this-is-what-not-everyone-will-tell-you-about-rejection/

Chasing a dream? Here’s the thing: If there comes a point where you find yourself hitting a wall, doubting yourself, questioning whether or not you are cut out for it, you are doing it right.

If only I could reach through this computer screen, grab hold of your shoulders, look you square in the eye, and tell you what my mother once told me: “Do not be afraid. These are signs of success.”

Nothing great was ever accomplished over night, even if it appears that way for others. Constantly comparing yourself is one of the most destructive hells to endure because we are all on different chapters of our lives.

Employers don’t always hire the right people. The best ones aren’t always chosen first. You and your work won’t always be justly recognized or valued.

So if you reach the point where you are not picked, if you question your competence, if you suffer the existential crisis of what you have worked so hard for to seem all of a sudden farther from your grasp, I have good news:

This is the soul-burning purgatory before ascending into the light of success.

We don’t talk enough about embracing the rejection and setbacks. Our culture emphasizes being number one. All that matters is climbing the ladder to the top. People begin feeling entitled to a coveted spot and then do not know what to do when it doesn’t work out how they planned.

So this is what you should do: Grab rejection by its horns and work through this difficult time. It often leads to creativity and opportunity. You will see and think in ways you wouldn’t have otherwise. This new perspective will make you stronger.

Slowly, but definitely, you will stand again. You will try again—as many times as needed. After finding a way to pierce through the impenetrable wall, you will know the beauty of being accepted. You will feel the gravity of your responsibility.

And, you will deliver—whatever that means for your field, you will give it all you’ve got. You will not let any moment escape you.

Unfortunately, I cannot say that it’s all happily ever after from there. Rejection, like success, comes and goes.

But I wouldn’t worry too much about what the future holds. Once you overcome a tough setback, you will learn you cannot be destroyed. You will know that if you did it once, you sure as hell can do it again because here’s the thing:

You will become one tenacious mother$%&^*@.

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Thank you for this ^^^, especially this comment “Chasing a dream? Here’s the thing: If there comes a point where you find yourself hitting a wall, doubting yourself, questioning whether or not you are cut out for it, you are doing it right.” So many times on this board you hear people say, if you question yourself or your commitment in any way then you are just not cut out for the biz or if you can see yourself doing something else than just do that. THANK YOU for providing the broader perspective.

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We got the official No from Pace in the mail today. She really liked their program and location… :frowning:

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No from Belmont today.

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OK, so I was speaking with my D about this audition process as we are getting ready to “pay it forward” by meeting with other moms and Ds from our hometown to share our BFA MT Audition experience. In going over points we wanted to make sure we covered I said something to my D that she told me she really appreciated and had not thought about before. I told her, “I don’t take it personally that not every college program admitted you. Those people don’t really know you, and I can’t blame the the ones that did not recognize the ‘fabulousness (yes,i made that up) of you’ in a the few minutes that they had you for the audition. Not everyone is as perceptive as they’d like to be. :wink: But I am very proud of the fact that every director you have every worked for has not regretted their choice in you, and has verbally conveyed to you that they enjoyed working with you and look forward to doing so again in the future. That is a truer sign of potential success than whether you got in at Top Tier School A or B.”

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Pace was a no

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No from Pace too.

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D got the no from Belmont today too.