Co-Eds Pay Pricey Tuition with Sugar Daddy Help

[barrons]

<p>I don’t know exactly how the young guys pulled it off but that have turned many otherwise normal young women into the quasi pornstars of their dreams. Might as well get some benefits and not the high volume.</p>

[Marsian]

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Am I the only one who objects to the term “co-ed” used to describe female students? This is a hangover from the days when females were add-ons at universities, where the primary mission was to educate men. It’s been considered demeaning since the 70s, at least.

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<p>No, you aren’t the only one. I deplore it, just like I deplore “woman driver” or “woman pilot”. It makes the assumption that the default is male.</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

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Am I the only one who objects to the term “co-ed” used to describe female students?

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<p>Nope. TBH, I’ve never heard that term IRL. </p>

<p>But ITT, we also see people who are still stuck on the ring by spring mentality so “co-ed” didn’t even faze me.</p>

[Beliavsky]

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@romanigypsyeyes

But ITT, we also see people who are still stuck on the ring by spring mentality

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<p>Are you referring to me? I’m certainly not saying that a woman’s college career is a failure if she is not engaged by the spring of her senior year. I do think that finding a spouse is as important as starting a career, and that if a college student meets someone who he or she feels is right for them, he or she should not avoid getting serious because of a general belief that 22 or 23 is too young to get married or that he or she should only be thinking about a career.</p>

[sally305]

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Am I the only one who objects to the term “co-ed” used to describe female students?

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<p>No. It bothered me too. IT IS 2013. We are at the point where the women’s colleges are admitting MEN and most schools have been “co-ed” for decades. I also always thought the term was stupid because it doesn’t aptly describe the group in question.</p>

[sally305]

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“men pay to get the nitwit to go away”
Nice. I’d love hear what your basis is for assuming that these guys are so much smarter than the young women they pay. I think it’s far more likely that they pay because (a) the women wouldn’t look twice at them if they weren’t paying; and/or (b) they’re married and figure it’s safer to do it that way, in terms of avoiding any romantic entanglements.

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<p>Yes. If you actually read some of the profiles of these guys, they do not exactly seem like God’s gift to women. Really–they are so fabulously successful but they have to pay for companionship? Or they are so shallow that they will only consider “trophy” girlfriends half their age? Or (as you say, and likely in many cases) they are married and looking for something on the side.</p>

[argbargy]

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“men pay to get the nitwit to go away”
Nice. I’d love hear what your basis is for assuming that these guys are so much smarter than the young women they pay.

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<p>Yeah. It is only a popular expression. See here:
[Freakonomics</a> I Pay Them to Leave](<a href=“Freakonomics - The hidden side of everything”>I Pay Them to Leave - Freakonomics)</p>

<p>Can you imagine dating a 20yo? Ugh. Would you like to be the supportive boyfriend for this music career?
[Ashley</a> Alexandra Dupre What We Want Music Video - YouTube](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzASE2RSMb8]Ashley”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzASE2RSMb8)</p>

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Their visits are generally no longer than four or five hours because Lola, a senior, has a full course load and also works 40 hours a week at two low-wage jobs. With no money from her parents, she was frank in her Seeking Arrangement profile, saying she needed “immediate financial assistance.” In B. K., she gets that in the form of $100 or $150 stuffed in her bag each time they meet.

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<p>Ouch. 5 hours plus at least another 1 travel and set up. She is a $17/hr hooker.</p>

[poetgrl]

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they will only consider “trophy” girlfriends half their age?

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<p>These ARE NOT the type of guys who can have “trophy” girlfriends. Let’s face it. Otherwise they would not have to pay. They are like 70 years old, or something, according to the article. They couldn’t “get” a real girlfriend even half their age, not the kind they want. They are desperate men, paying for something, and who even cares about them?</p>

<p>The sad thing is the girls, imho. Clearly the guy paying 100-150 an hour has found a particularly desperate young woman. Sad.</p>

<p>As for the hookup culture, most girls leave far too many of the best guys in the “friend zone” and then wander around complaining when they aren’t having the relationship they want while they sleep with the guys who don’t want a relationship at all.</p>

<p>Co-eds? Hell, it’s better than prostitute, which some of you are calling all of these young women.</p>

[argbargy]

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These ARE NOT the type of guys who can have “trophy” girlfriends. Let’s face it. Otherwise they would not have to pay.

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<p>They pay because they dont want the girl around all the time and have to listen to her drama. " I don’t bring up mundane problems about my home life, and he does the same. . . . If I wanted someone to talk to about my life problems, I’d get a boyfriend or a therapist.”"</p>

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Clearly the guy paying 100-150 an hour has found a particularly desperate young woman. Sad.

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<p>It was $100 for 5 hours. I’d call it 6 hours after travel time. </p>

<p>Here is a profile of Brandon Wade (nee Wey) the founder. He is has a BS in Physics and an MBA from MIT. Here is his description of the men:
“On Seeking Arrangement, 40 percent are married men. The average age is 39, he makes on average $200,000 and is worth roughly $5 million. And he spends approximately $3,000 a month on pampering the Sugar Babies.”</p>

<p>Assuming the men are shaving a bit, that makes then mid-40’s, which seems to line up with the Times article. </p>

<p>[Brandon</a> Wade MIT Nerd Built A $10 Million ‘Sugar Baby’ Dating Empire - Business Insider](<a href=“Brandon Wade MIT Nerd Built a $10 Million 'Sugar Baby' Dating Empire”>Brandon Wade MIT Nerd Built a $10 Million 'Sugar Baby' Dating Empire)</p>

[CPUscientist3000]

<p>I would never engage in something like this and I am reserving my judgements on the women and men students who partake (I am judging the “sugar parents”). </p>

<p>For laughs and giggles I looked at the site (did not need to sign up to browse). They are not all 70 something’s. Just to make that clear. (Cross posted with others)</p>

<p>Also, about your “friend zone” comment poetgrl; there’s actually a lot of conflict surrounding that word. I find it interesting that you used it. It has negative connotations that girls are just picky and don’t appreciate anyone and want a “fantasy” boyfriend instead of real guys. When a “hot guy” (or “bad boy”) is rejected, he’s rejected. When a “nice guy” (some people treat good-looking and nice as mutually exclusive. It’s all subjective) is rejected, he’s “friend-zoned”. Why is that? It’s derogatory. Maybe girls turn down guys (hot AND nice) because there’s just no interest? It’s incorrect of you to say that girls “friend-zone” guys and then go sleeping around with other guys. The term friend-zoning stems from a male entitlement state of mind. “I’m nice, I bought her flowers, I’m good-looking, etc, I DESERVE to have this girl”. Like women are robots and if you press the right buttons, you win the prize. </p>

<p>I don’t know how long the term has been around but I’m going to assume (and I may be incorrect) that it wasn’t around back when you all were young (or it wasn’t as prevalent in use). So as an adult, you using that “young term” without knowing the implications of using it, I felt like I needed to say something (and not just to you, to everyone unfamiliar with the real meaning). Unless you do know the connotations. Then I’m just shocked.</p>

[argbargy]

<p>[Friend</a> Zone | Know Your Meme](<a href=“http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/friend-zone]Friend”>Friend Zone | Know Your Meme)</p>

[poetgrl]

<p>[Seeking</a> Arrangement: College Students Using ‘Sugar Daddies’ To Pay Off Loan Debt](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>Seeking Arrangement: College Students Using 'Sugar Daddies' To Pay Off Loan Debt | HuffPost Women)</p>

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“It’s a very expensive job,” says Jack, a 70-year-old sugar daddy, who describes himself as a “humanitarian” interested in helping young women in financial need. Jack isn’t the name that appears on his American Express black card, but an identity he uses when shopping online for companionship and sex.

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Once in Greenwich, a man who appeared significantly older than his advertised age of 42 greeted Taylor at the train station and then drove her to the largest house she had ever seen. He changed into his swimming trunks, she put on a skimpy bathing suit, and then, by the side of his pool, she rubbed sunscreen into the folds of his sagging back – bracing herself to endure an afternoon of sex with someone she suspected was actually about 30 years her senior.

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<p>CPU-- around here, when the girls say friend zone, they just mean he’s a really nice guy, but not as hot as the other guy. It’s not all that involved as you described.</p>

[CPUscientist3000]

<p>argbargy, While that article has credibility there are still fallacies within it (as memes are still subjective and are often based on unreal truths or large assumptions/stereotypes). The definition of friend-zone may have started out as “one wants a relationship and the other doesn’t” but it means more than that today. Those “Friend Zone Fiona/Phil/etc” are interesting but I still have gripes with some of the frames. </p>

<p>Why can’t a girl invite a guy over to watch a movie and they actually only watch a movie (instead of sex which the guy assumed she meant).</p>

<p>Just because one guy quotes in an article is 70 doesn’t mean the majority of users are that age. The website owner himself told everyone what the average age is.</p>

[poetgrl]

<p>Perhaps we could combine this thread with the thread that says that kids whose parents give them too much money for college tuition do worse in college. Let’s see, which would I prefer? A few C’s? Or this? :p</p>

<p>Honestly, for the most part, I think this just falls into the so what category. Younger women and older men have had arrangements like this since the beginning of “civilization.” Given the percentage of young women going to college these days, it’s not really that surprising that some of them would get themselves involved in this kind of muck.</p>

[bclintonk]

<p>I was surprised at the price of $100 to $150 for a 5-hour session. I haven’t ever purchased services in that market, but my impression is that an ordinary streetwalker will charge that much around here, and Wikipedia says that in Nevada where prostitution is legal in some counties, brothels charge $200 and up for 15 minutes. These women are selling themselves cheap.</p>

[sally305]

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He changed into his swimming trunks, she put on a skimpy bathing suit, and then, by the side of his pool, she rubbed sunscreen into the folds of his sagging back – bracing herself to endure an afternoon of sex with someone she suspected was actually about 30 years her senior.

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<p>Reminds me of that Sex and the City episode where Samantha gives a relationship with a doting older man a try…the part where she watches him walk from the bed to the bathroom is priceless.</p>

<p>But yeah, I am sure there is just as much false advertising as there is on any regular dating site.</p>

[argbargy]

<p>“But yeah, I am sure there is just as much false advertising as there is on any regular dating site.”</p>

<p>Ha! You think the NYUers and CUNYs are upgrading themselves to Columbia? Now that would be a interesting sort of inflation for a dating site.</p>

[sally305]

<p>^I am SURE there are people upgrading themselves. Happens everywhere.</p>

[HImom]

<p>How can one even validate what the owner of the site says? In the reviews I read, many said that there are a LOT of profiles that seem “fake” and a lot of people who describe their age as different than it actually is. How can the owner really KNOW where these people go to school (or even if they do)? Read about several people who complained that stock photos were being used that were from model websites and NOT of the actual people but that management ignored complaints. How is there any validation about the age of the men & others on the site, and anything else that is claimed here.</p>

[CPUscientist3000]

<p>The website FAQ mentions a background check ^</p>