I wonder how many of the additional applications are coming from international students. I’d love to see year to year stats on the number of qualified US applicants applying to these highly selective schools. I’d imagine the number’s been rising, but I wonder if has been by as high a percentage as applicants from international students, especially the Chinese.
@sue22 The increase in the number of applications this year is NOT due to international applicants. The number of international applicants have plateaued and may have already started decreasing.
The pace of decrease will likely accelerate in the coming years, as fewer Chinese students will choose US colleges for a number of reasons.
@1NJParent This article is talking about the trend across the entire nation. It is still possible that number of international applicants among the T20 school is continuing to grow.
Specifically, the article says:
While 45 percent of institutions responding to the snapshot survey reported declines in new international students, 31 percent reported increases and 24 percent reported no change. Of those reporting decreases in new international students, the average decrease was 20 percent. Of those reporting increases, the average increase was 5 percent.
The most selective universities – those that admit less than a quarter of applicants – continued to report growth in new international student enrollments.
@1NJParent,
It’s not possible to tell from the number of enrollments whether applications have leveled off. It could be that US colleges are saturated with international students, so despite increasing applications colleges are accepting the same number of or fewer internationals. Or it could be that fewer are applying. The article doesn’t really tell us. It does states,
(Cross posted with osuprof)
@osuprof Yes, it’s still increasing at some colleges, mainly urban colleges. NYU, in releasing its admission statistics this year, congratulated itself for bucking the trend. USC is also likely seeing more international applicants. These schools also heavily marketed themselves to international applicants. The very tippy tops always cap their international enrollment to no more than about 10%. Harvard, for example, only accepted a single applicant SCEA from China this year. With extremely long odds, fewer applicants will apply. And that’s only one of the reasons.
Updating list sorted by overall admit rates with Georgetown, Tufts, Notre Dame, and Amherst.
Stanford (RD+SCEA) 2,040 out of 47,450 (4.3%)
Harvard (RD+SCEA) 1,962 out of 42,749 (4.6%)
Princeton (RD+SCEA) 1,941 out of 35,370 (5.5%)
Columbia (RD+ED) 2,214 out of 40,203 (5.5%)
Yale (RD+SCEA) 2,229 out of 35,306 (6.3%)
MIT (RD+EA) 1,464 out of 21,706 (6.7%)
Pomona (RD+ED) 713 out of 10,245 (6.9%)
Brown (RD+ED) 2,566 out of 35,438 (7.2%)
Duke (RD+ED) 3,097 out of 37,390 (8.3%)
Penn (RD+ED) 3,731 out of 44,491 (8.4%)
Northwestern (RD+ED) 3,392 out of 40,425 (8.4%)
Dartmouth (RD+ED) 1,925 out of 22,033 (8.7%)
Swarthmore (RD+ED) 980 out of 10,749 (9.1%)
Johns Hopkins (RD+ED) 2,894 out of 29,128 (9.9%)
Cornell (RD+ED) 5,288 out of 51,328 (10.3%)
Bowdoin (RD+ED1+ED2) ~935 out of 9,081 (10.3%)
Williams (RD+ED) 1,163 out of 9,559 (12.2%)
Amherst (RD+ED) 1,244 out of 9,722 (12.8%)
USC 8,258 out of 64,256 (12.9%)
Colby 1,602 out of 12,313 (13.0%)
Barnard (RD+ED) 1,088 out of 7,897 (13.8%)
Olin 125 out of 882 (14.2%)
Harvey Mudd (RD+ED) 594 out of 4,101 (14.5%)
**Georgetown (RD+EA) 3,327 out of 22,897 (14.5%)
Tufts (RD+EDI+EDII) ~3,139 out of 21,502 (14.6%) **
WashU (RD+ED) 4695/31300 (15%)
Tulane ~6,598 out of 38,813 (17%)
Wesleyan (RD+EDI+EDII) 2,186 out of 12,788 (17.1%)
Notre Dame (RD+EA) 3,586 out of 20,370 (17.6%)
Middlebury (RD+ED, likely excluding Febs) 1,696 out 9,230 (18.4%)
Emory (RD+ED, excl. Oxford-only apps) ~5,135 out of 27,759 (18.5%)
Davidson ~1,066 out of 5,700 (18.7%)
Haverford 877 out of 4682 (18.7%)
Wellesley ~1,267 out of 6,670 (19%)
NYU (RD+ED1+ED2) 15,722 out of 75,037 (< 21.0, incl. 19% for NY campus)
BU ~14,184 out of 64,473 (22%)
Georgia Tech (RD+EA) ~7,832 out of 35,600 (22%)
Vassar (RD+ED1+ED2) ~1,994 out of 8,312 (24%)
UVA 9,850 out of 37,222 (26.5%)
BC (RD+EA) 8,400 out of >31,000 (< 27.1%)
VIllanova (RD+EA+ED) 6,545 out of 22,727 (28.8%)
Florida 14,866 out of 40,849 (36.4%)
Georgia (RD+EA) < 12,700 out of 26,500 (< 47.9%)
Santa Clara (RD+ED) ~ 7,954 out of 16,233 (49%)
Adding Union College (NY)
Stanford (RD+SCEA) 2,040 out of 47,450 (4.3%)
Harvard (RD+SCEA) 1,962 out of 42,749 (4.6%)
Princeton (RD+SCEA) 1,941 out of 35,370 (5.5%)
Columbia (RD+ED) 2,214 out of 40,203 (5.5%)
Yale (RD+SCEA) 2,229 out of 35,306 (6.3%)
MIT (RD+EA) 1,464 out of 21,706 (6.7%)
Pomona (RD+ED) 713 out of 10,245 (6.9%)
Brown (RD+ED) 2,566 out of 35,438 (7.2%)
Duke (RD+ED) 3,097 out of 37,390 (8.3%)
Penn (RD+ED) 3,731 out of 44,491 (8.4%)
Northwestern (RD+ED) 3,392 out of 40,425 (8.4%)
Dartmouth (RD+ED) 1,925 out of 22,033 (8.7%)
Swarthmore (RD+ED) 980 out of 10,749 (9.1%)
Johns Hopkins (RD+ED) 2,894 out of 29,128 (9.9%)
Cornell (RD+ED) 5,288 out of 51,328 (10.3%)
Bowdoin (RD+ED1+ED2) ~935 out of 9,081 (10.3%)
Williams (RD+ED) 1,163 out of 9,559 (12.2%)
Amherst (RD+ED) 1,244 out of 9,722 (12.8%)
USC 8,258 out of 64,256 (12.9%)
Colby 1,602 out of 12,313 (13.0%)
Barnard (RD+ED) 1,088 out of 7,897 (13.8%)
Olin 125 out of 882 (14.2%)
Harvey Mudd (RD+ED) 594 out of 4,101 (14.5%)
Georgetown (RD+EA) 3,327 out of 22,897 (14.5%)
Tufts (RD+EDI+EDII) ~3,139 out of 21,502 (14.6%)
WashU (RD+ED) 4695/31300 (15%)
Tulane ~6,598 out of 38,813 (17%)
Wesleyan (RD+EDI+EDII) 2,186 out of 12,788 (17.1%)
Notre Dame (RD+EA) 3,586 out of 20,370 (17.6%)
Middlebury (RD+ED, likely excluding Febs) 1,696 out 9,230 (18.4%)
Emory (RD+ED, excl. Oxford-only apps) ~5,135 out of 27,759 (18.5%)
Davidson ~1,066 out of 5,700 (18.7%)
Haverford 877 out of 4682 (18.7%)
Wellesley ~1,267 out of 6,670 (19%)
NYU (RD+ED1+ED2) 15,722 out of 75,037 (< 21.0, incl. 19% for NY campus)
BU ~14,184 out of 64,473 (22%)
Georgia Tech (RD+EA) ~7,832 out of 35,600 (22%)
Vassar (RD+ED1+ED2) ~1,994 out of 8,312 (24%)
UVA 9,850 out of 37,222 (26.5%)
BC (RD+EA) 8,400 out of >31,000 (< 27.1%)
VIllanova (RD+EA+ED) 6,545 out of 22,727 (28.8%)
Florida 14,866 out of 40,849 (36.4%)
Union College (NY) 2450 out of 6,701 (36.5%)
Georgia (RD+EA) < 12,700 out of 26,500 (< 47.9%)
Santa Clara (RD+ED) ~ 7,954 out of 16,233 (49%)
@Ynotgo
That’s a form of bias as well " Oh the Americanized Asians aren’t as bad as the FOBS" lol. If Asian internationals don’t feel as though they’re apart of the community while on campus then why would the donate years later. I’m sure the same can be said of other groups of internationals, so I wonder why Asians are being singled out.
Mods: would love to see this thread get back to college admissions statistics.
Reading this years threads it is a thoroughly depressing picture, deferments and wait lists seem more common than acceptances, really hard to get excited about that. D3 a senior next year top 5% student if you believe ACT metrics but Mrs Guapo not keen on being too far away. I think it will probably be Canada for us, 3 apps no drama prob $200 costs and a college environment which fits her academics. With a bit of forethought in the application process she could be done by thanksgiving. In my case US system driving $$$ abroad. Anybody listening? Probably not.
MODERATOR’S NOTE:
I have to agree. I’m not sure what tipping/China/alumni giving by race have to do with anything, so I have deleted 12 off topic posts.
@skieurope, I think the point being made related to tipping/China/alumni is that analysis done by some colleges (apparently including Dartmouth) suggests that having a high percentage of international students will negatively impact future donations, and as a result at some universities we are likely to see a reduction in international acceptances accompanied by an increase in domestic acceptances. It will be interesting to see if this transpires.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread or, pardon the pun, the price of tea in China. Hence, why those posts were deleted.
Could some very extra special kind soul update the most recent list of acceptance rates? Thank you so much!
@skieurope,I am always grateful for nuggets of information that help me understand the underlying dynamics driving current and future admissions statistics. If these nuggets are not going to be discussed here, then where?
@am61517 you can set up a new thread with appropriate Topic instead of discussing under Admissions Statistics for this particular year.