Two very “important”/“highly selective” colleges are missing from the Class of 2022 admissions statistics. Caltech (California Instittute of Technology) and University of Chicago. Anybody ?
Also missing Claremont McKenna, another highly selective college. Last year CMC admitted 10.4% of applicants.
@GMC2918 I believe that was included in my original post. (Southern California to clarify)
Until I was a sophomore in college, despite getting regular mailings from them, I always thought CWRU was a military school at the community college level due to its long weird name and seemingly random location (I was getting these in Florida and was lucky not to be using US News rankings at all until after applying). RHIT did indeed get an application from me despite being an absolutely terrible fit in hindsight.
Still, the point is, getting rid of the supplemental essay is a one time boost.
In terms of supplements being read, I think the filtering process means those on the border get more time likely. By the time you filter out the high’s and lows, I bet that time per application goes pretty high. You skim lows to see if it makes a difference, high’s to see if they messed up badly, and only those in the middle get the full read. I haven’t worked in admissions, but it would seem silly not to take a tiered approach to time spent per application.
Yup. See http://www.aacrao.org/resources/resources-detail-view/why-drexel-u–tamed-its-application-monster
Yield and admit rates for schools that admit huge % of their classes ED and those that do not are not comparable.
Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, UCLA, Berkeley, Georgetown, USC, U. Michigan and others don’t try to manipulate yield and % admitted with ED.
EA – even when it is restricted – doesn’t skew admission rates the same way. Nothing is stopping a student from applying to a bunch of other schools.
No doubt if Berkeley and UCLA and Georgetown filled half their slots or more with ED they would seem far more selective and their yield would go up.
USC manipulates their numbers and perceived selectivity by admitting lots of transfers who aren’t counted. See, e.g., http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/university-southern-california/613255-why-does-usc-admit-so-many-transfer-students-p1.html and http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/university-southern-california/561586-what-i-wish-i-had-known-about-usc-p1.html
@EdChan I emailed someone at Caltech who gave me that information last year. She said that they will release the 2018 admission data in October after the Fall figures are confirmed. I will let this thread know if I hear anything unofficial before then.
Caltech has only ~235 freshmen each year, so even a few waitlist admissions can affect the admission numbers.
For reference in Class of 2021, Caltech had 7339 applicants last year and offered admission to 568. It’s a really small school - 20% size of MIT roughly. Personally I will be a bit surprised if the number of applicants grew much.
@observer12 I couldn’t agree more. I have two daughters each at schools that did not cave to the ED pressure to make themselves seem more selective…I’m glad some people are paying attention to this phenomenon.
I realize I’m stating the obvious, but one really has to peel back the onion to get a true sense for “selectivity”. There are some schools that are seemingly more selective (based on their admission rate), yet their test score range is lower than schools that have a higher acceptance rate. Scores are just another data point, but it can help paint a clearer picture of how difficult it is to get in to some schools.
@foosondaughter vanderbilt does the same thing—they admit ~27% of transfer students, nearly 4x the regular decision freshman admission rate.
Does Vanderbilts transfer process mimic that of USCs in terms of local CC graduates? Tennessee doesnt seem like it has the same volume of CC graduates as CA
@shafthalf as far as i know, vanderbilt does not have an “agreement” per se with tennessee’s community colleges like usc has with california’s community colleges. in other words, vandy doesn’t work with tennessee’s community colleges. i live in tennessee, and most/nearly all of the people who go to a tennessee community college either transfer to one of the ut campuses after their two years (utk, utc, etc.) or choose not to continue their education.
I agree that USC (and Cal and UCLA) accept a lot of transfers. That’s a California tradition. I think Stanford accepts far more community college transfers when compared to peer schools like Harvard and Yale - although I am sure it is a small number when compared to the U. Cal schools and USC. USC also accepts January admits (as do some other colleges) but often colleges that do that aren’t simply manipulating admissions rates but trying to efficiently use resources if students are taking semesters away. Not all January admits are low stats kids.
But I don’t know why you’d pull out a ten-year old thread from 2008!
If a college wants to fill half or more of its class with students via ED or EDI or ED2 who must come if admitted (barring a few exceptions), bully for them. I’m just pointing out you are comparing apples to oranges when talking about admit and yield rates.
@shafthalf can you please post more schools on your list of increased applications since last year? Very interesting1
@shafthalf I’m particularly interested in change in applicants since last year for: Univ of MD College Park, Clemson, William & Mary, University of Georgia, and Occidental
@wwjjdo94 I believe you meant to mention me. That said, it’s only about 50 schools on the list and none of those are included 
I don’t have all the schools you asked for. I am PM’ing you the link though!
What are the UMICH stats?
Also not included. Those included:
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Columbia
Yale
MIT
Pomona
Brown
University of Chicago*
Duke
UPenn
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt*
Swarthmore
Johns Hopkins
Bowdoin
Cornell
Williams
Amherst
USC
Colby
Barnard
Olin
Harvey Mudd
Georgetown
Tufts
Colorado College
WUSTL
Tulane
Wesleyan
Notre Dame
Emory (Emory)
Middlebury
Davidson
Haverford
Wellesley
Northeastern
NYU
Boston University
Georgia Tech
Vassar
Emory (Oxford)
Virginia
Boston College
Villanova
URichmond
University of Florida
Union College 38.0%: https://www.union.edu/news/stories/2018/04/a-look-at-the-class-of-2022-admitted-students–.php
Any word about Occidental, Pitzer or Whitman? Thanks all!