I anticipated Amherst acceptance would be lower, mostly because they over enrolled for the class of 2022 and it caused problems for housing that will likely continue to impact them going forward the next few years. It’s surprising to me that some of the other schools had significantly fewer admits. I guess it may be a year for applicants to feel a bit more hopeful than last year if they are sitting on the wait lists of some of those schools.
Barnard - 11.3% of 9,319 applicants
GWU - about 11,000 from more than 27,000 applicants.
https://gwtoday.gwu.edu/gw-selects-class-2023
Rice
ED 408 / 2628 15.5%
RD 1956 / 24456 8.0%
Total 2364 / 27084 8.7%
http://www.ricethresher.org/article/2019/03/acceptance-rate-hits-record-low-of-8-7-percent
@T20hopeful2023 Any idea how many Rice deferred from ED into the RD round? This can skew the RD acceptance rate downward. Many people don’t think of that, but places that defer a sizeable amount into the RD round make that acceptance much harder. I don’t know how many Rice deferred from ED, but it was probably close to 200.
@bzss7x - that’s an interesting question, in that I never considered where the deferreds get counted. ED pool or RD pool? Of course, once deferred any offer is no longer binding - i wonder what % of deferred ED applicants eventually made an offer end up accepting, given that they will have other offers (and financial awards) to compare to in RD.
UVA EA correction - should be 26% - 27.7% was from last year
https://news.virginia.edu/content/decision-day-part-1-uva-releases-early-action-decisions
“This fall, a record 25,126 students applied to the University of Virginia’s Class of 2023 via the early application process – about 17 percent more than last year. Early Friday evening, they learned whether they had been admitted.
From that pool, 6,550 received the news they were hoping for – an offer rate of 26 percent. Last year, UVA had an early action offer rate of 27.7 percent.”
MIT EA + RD: 1410 out of 21,312 (6.6%)
MIT EA: 707 out of 9,600 (7.4%)
JHU ED + RD 2,950 out of 32,231 (9.2%)
Colby ED1 + ED2 + RD 1,295 out of 13,584 (9.5%)
Amherst 1,144 out of 10,567 (11%)
USC 7400 out of 67,000 (11%)
Yale SCEA: 794 out of 6,016 (13.2%)
Harvard REA: 935 out of 6,958 (13.4%)
Princeton SCEA: 743 out of 5,335 (13.9%)
WashU ED1 + ED2 + RD ~3,556 out of ~25,400 (~14%)
Emory - 4512 out of 30,017 (15%)
Rice ED: 408 out of 2628 (15.5%)
Penn ED: 1279 out of 7,110 (18.0%)
Washington and Lee - 1,115 out of 6,178 (18.0%)
Brown ED: 769 out of 4,230 (18.2%)
Duke ED: 882 out of 4,852 (18.2%)
Georgia Tech EA+RD: 6940 out of 36936 (18.8%)
Emory Oxford College- 3432 out of ~18,000 (19%)
Georgia Tech EA: 4000 out of 20289 (19.7%)
Notre Dame REA: 1,534 out of 7,334 (20.9%)
Cornell ED: 1,395 out of 6,159 (22.6%)
Dartmouth ED: 574 out of 2,474 (23.2%)
UVA RD+EA: 9,725 admits from 40,869 (23.8%)
Northwestern ED: ~1,100 out of 4,399 (~25.0%)
UVA EA: 6,550 out of 25126 (26%)
Emory ED1: ~559 out of 1,910 (~29%)
UNC EA: 7867 out of 25867 (30.4%)
Johns Hopkins ED: 641 out of 2,068 (31.0%)
UGA EA: 7500 out of 17000 (44.1%)
Middlebury ED1: 297 out of 654 (45.4%)
@bzss7x I don’t think they report the number of deferrals in either round. From what I can see in what schools report, ED deferrals are counted in the total ED applications but rejections could be in either round. That’s why it’s important to look at both the ED/RD and the composite totals.
If Rice deferred 200 from the ED round, that would mean the effective RD acceptance rate was 7.2%. Assuming that most of the 200 deferrals would also matriculate, the RD yield would have to drop to 20.3% to get to their target class size of 950. This seems way too low, especially in a year that everyone expected their yield % to increase due to the more lucrative financial aid program.
I got an email from Brown that said their RD admission rate this year was 4.8 percent.
@milgymfam Respectfully curious, why is Brown emailing you info about admissions prior to the release of their decisions?
https://emorywheel.com/emory-admission-rate-drops-to-15-percent/
Details on Emory College Admit stats
Avg GPA-3.86 out of 4
Median GPA- 3.92 out of 4
Avg SAT-1471
Median SAT- 1490
Avg ACT- 33.1
Median ACT- 34
Admit rate- 15%
Expected yield: 30%
From looking at the median
I’m guessing a 32-35 range but we will see.
I am not sure this is possible, but it would be very helpful for students in future years if there could be a list like this that can also subtract the number of athletic offers, and even better taking out legacies. If I had really understood this I know my D19 could have saved money and time and not applied to many of the schools she applied to. A school like Rice that made only 2364 offers and 27,084 applicants with a good number out in Early Decision, athletes, legacies, Questbridge. It would be great to see how many slots were actually up for grabs. My guess is the percentage is closer to 2-3% or lower.
I am a multi-generation legacy at Rice going back to my great grandmother, 1935 grad and great Uncle, 1926 grad who was also on the Rice Board of Governors. Throw Latina female on top of that and I still didn’t get in. With Rice, I think it comes down to whether you have the GPA and test scores or you don’t. The rest is a small factor.
That’s a good idea - perhaps not all of that but at least reporting the ED admissions clearly apart from RD . Just browsing through some of the ED numbers posted and at some schools it seems as if nearly half or even more of the seats are filled via ED. (It’s different for EA since students are free to decline their spots, but that can’t happen in ED except in very rare circumstances).
I have utmost respect for colleges that are completely transparent about how many seats are filled via ED and the ED admit rate (like Hopkins, Brown, Middlebury and others above) and it does not speak well when a few universities hide this. I don’t think anyone knows how many seats at U. Chicago are filled ED 1 and 2, right? I have to wonder why some universities make those numbers readily available and others don’t when there is no reason not to publish them if they have confidence in their universities.
@baltimoreguy, to be honest, I’m not entirely sure! It included all the stats of the incoming class and the application season though.
@19parent At several LACs we toured, I remember them saying that roughly 35-40% of students play varsity sports. Two schools were 50% but that was the highest I heard. That’s obviously a higher percentage at a smaller school but I’ve heard roughly 20% of an incoming class at the Ivies. You can look at an individual school and do the math but almost all of them will be ED decisions with maybe a handful walk ons. Even if they don’t say the percentage directly, just look at the rosters and divide by 4 (for a very rough estimate).
Usually they say how many QB and it’s usually around 25 spots at the places I remember. Not a huge number.
Several schools reveal what percentage of the class are legacies. They will likely most be admitted in ED. I’m sure there is variation but a range I kept hearing was 11-18% of a class are officially considered legacies.
That’s a lot of ED spots. It’s often not much of an advantage for regular ol people. I really wish the schools would be more upfront about that. Some are starting to be IME this season.
@observer12 , there is though a difference between colleges that admit a lot of ED applicants almost as a “reward” for the ED commitment itself (think American, NYU, and I believe GW as examples) and those who use a lot of the ED spaces for legacies, athletes etc (judging by CC, much of the top 20 that do ED). For the first type ED is definitely an advantage, for the second it may be a “waste” of an option.
@19parent – There will be overlap between legacies & recruited athletes, legacies & URM, athletes & URM, 1st ten & athlete, etc, etc.
Recruited athlete % of class at Ivies will vary with school size. The Ivies each recruit a fairly similar # of athletes. (There is a formula but I do not recall the calculation.) Say 220 to maybe 250 at the upper end of the range, so the recruited athletes represent a larger percentage of Dartmouth’s class than Cornell’s class. The # of non-hooked seats in Dartmouth’s ED class has to be lower than the # in Cornell’s ED class.
I think legacy percentage at Ivies is in the range @PetraMC quoted above. I believe Notre Dame has a figure in the mid-20s perhaps?