Well, thank you for your kind words, but to understand why testvigilante is so bitter, you must understand that she herself is a SAT instructor in South Korea who feels slighted by the system and is adamant on exposing other, much more successful instructors whom she swears are nothing more than a bunch of cheaters. She even had the gall to publicly list the names of 16 teachers she said were cheaters and should be investigated. I mean, if this individual has any sort of evidence, I would strongly advise her to take it up with the proper or relevant authorities, but to come on here and seek to publicly shame those whom she doesn’t know is just plain wrong and very childish.
OK, time to exit this thread. Life’s way too short for this nonsense.
@bjkmom
Yes, to use an expression I learned from my cool American friends (I hope I don’t sound stupid):
Fo shizzy.
It is simply unethical and unfair that the wealthy kids get to cheat and steal opportunities from other hard working students. Unlike students with American citizenship, international students have a narrow chance of getting accepted by top colleges. So, colleges really should compare these students’ SAT scores to their PSAT scores and make sure that the cheaters do not get accepted.
Most importantly, however, it is sad to see that a public company such as the College Board, which is supposed to uphold such values as integrity and ethics, does not punish these cheaters. It appears that the organization only wants to cover up any violation of test security in fear that the test would lose credibility. Would it not make more sense to just fix the problem by creating new tests each time or really punish those that cheat?
And, to answer the questions above, I care about this issue because cheaters are really stealing opportunities from other more deserving students. Also, to provide an answer to the accusation that I am some infuriated, less successful SAT instructor, I assure you that I am not. I am just a student who is upset to see that the wealthier students are getting 800s on all their SAT II tests and 2300 and above on the SAT I because they get to see the tests and memorize the answers before taking them.
Perhaps AlfredoKim is not a student who cheats but an instructor who helps students cheat. I don’t care either way. I don’t care what he is or what he thinks. However, cheating is clearly a widespread problem that needs to be resolved. It is upsetting to see that such cheating is taking place on what seems to be nationwide scale and that nothing is being done about it.
Well, if you are really a student who is genuinely incensed by the prevalence of cheating you say you see all around you, I do apologize. I would advise you to lodge a complaint with the College Board or perhaps even write a letter to Valerie. The Washington Post might even publish it in her blog.
Justice delayed is not always justice forgotten.
Except many (most?) international students don’t take the PSAT at all. The PSAT is really only useful for NMSQT purposes, and National Merit scholarships are only available for US citizens.
Many people in South Korea, parents and students, including myself, have complained to the College Board. Yet, it has done nothing to improve the situation.
Actually, international students also get to take the PSAT and can qualify to become a National Merit Scholar. Only the only difference is that the scholarship is only given to US citizens.
Like I said:
@testvigilante – You still haven’t explained how the purported leakage of the June 2014 U.S. test could have facilitated cheating on the January 2015 international test, which was emphatically not a repeat of June 2014 U.S.
I’ve been following this thread with interest and have generally been swayed by your arguments @testvigilante. However, you need to reply to the post above to maintain credibility. Please do so.
Well this is entertaining http://m.nydailynews.com/news/world/600-indian-students-caught-cheating-parents-scale-walls-article-1.2156737
Wow.
Sadly, there are even reports of increasingly frequent incidences of scam artists and even teachers in Korea editing and cropping released exams they find online and selling them as unreleased exams for thousands of dollars online to gullible parents, other teachers and students, promising that one of the exams will appear on future SAT exams. One teacher even reportedly boasted of having such exams to his kids and parents without even realizing himself that most of the exams were released! Too embarrassed are the victims, however, that they can rarely report such despicable scams.
Alfredo Kim, I have private message for u. Please email at kevlim84@gmail.com
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I would like debate with u on SAT cheating problem in Korea/Asia. Very serious. I think u know really lot this issue, right?
Why not just PM me or debate me here publicly. Weirdo.
I mean, this debate is getting very old now. No matter what you or anyone else says, nothing is going to change inasmuch as the College Board decides to do nothing at all except create an unfair testing environment that rewards cheaters and punishes innocent students.
Moreover, if you live in Korea, why not ask the prosecutors why the 22 people they indicted in 2013 were let off with a slap on the wrist?
Why wouldn’t any cheat now when those guys are still thriving and making tons of money?
I admire your efforts to address this issue, but you’re picking a fight with the wrong guy. Go write a letter to David Coleman or something and ask him for a debate.
Good luck.
Moreover, if you’re going to keep changing aliases and go around making wild allegations that the Koreans are selling and distributing illegal exams that weren’t even recycled in January or impersonating people and accusing random teachers of cheating, and if it’s a dirty fight that you want instead of an open and sincere debate, then I’ll be your Huckleberry. In fact, we can meet up and do this the old-fashioned Korean way and duke it out.
But if not, then please stop and allow this forum to be used for what it is intended: conveying and receiving advice for test prep and college entrance. And if there is really justice in this world, then it will be served one day, not because you go around ranting and raving about injustice in the evil corridors of the College Board.
Sorry can’t read email. Asks for name? Please send again not locked