School participates in SAT cheating in South Korea?

<p>This… is just unbelievable.</p>

<p>A recent article in a Korean newspaper (translated into english in: <a href=“National : News : The Hankyoreh”>[Feature] SAT scandal leaves many questions unanswered : National : News : The Hankyoreh</a> ) states that a high school in South Korea was an official SAT test center until ETS closed it down in June 2006. </p>

<p>The supposed reasons for the closing of Hanyaong’s SAT center were:</p>

<li><p>copying and distributing SAT Math II C tests to students so they could “prepare” for their Math II C test (I think I heard there were 80 pages).</p></li>
<li><p>giving the students the questions to the SAT II chemistry test prior to the test day in June 2005. </p></li>
</ol>

<p>About #2, the school administrator “ms. Kim” says that some student got a hold of the chemistry test from somewhere else and then shared the questions with his friends. It’s obvious that she’s trying to cover up this whole incident, and what she is saying is a blatant lie because ETS wouldn’t close down their SAT center if it wasn’t the school administrator’s fault. they would have tracked down where the kid got the test, and punish the kid and the “place where he got the test”, not the school. Things like cheating on the SAT among students are frequent here too, but it’s the students who are punished for their lack of judgement, not the school.</p>

<p>Okay, when my brother told me this, I couldn’t believe this could actually happen. His girlfriend is Korean, and she says that things like this happen in Korea quite often, but we in the US never get to hear of it.</p>

<p>How can a school just get away with that… that’s all I kept asking.
It turns out that Collegeboard ships out the SAT tests to international SAT test centers (like Hanyoung and other test centers in Korea) way before the test date, and the school “takes care” of the test booklets. Supposedly, there’s no official from the ETS to watch the tests from being opened beforehand or to supervise the testings. After the test is over, the school packs the test booklets+answer sheets and ships them back here, to the US. And obviously, this particular school has done things with the tests that they shouldn’t be doing during the days (or even weeks) that the test is in their hands.</p>

<p>What angers me is how kids from this school in Korea are cheating their way into our best colleges. And I don’t think I am the only one who feels indignant about it. **All of us Americans should feel indignant. **We’re trying so hard to get into our own colleges, and they’re cheating their way in. And how ETS is trying to cover their careless supervision over test centers in other countries… that angers me.</p>

<p>It’s so obvious that there’s a huge amount of cheating in Korea. In his Harvard class, my brother knew a few Koreans who came from a Korean high school (don’t know if it was hanyuong, but some language highschool in Korea) and they had awesome stats like 1600 and 5’s on all APs etc, but they would fail their English course so badly it was a wonder they even got a 1600. and after their freshman year, my brother never saw them again. heard all of them went back to korea. he said they were extremely hardworking, but they definitely were not as good as their stats said they were.</p>

<p>I don’t care if people are smart and hardworking. If they cheat, they’re cheaters! and now a whole school cheating on the SATs? This is ridiculous. I hope students from this school get what they deserve… a reject letter from colleges and from our country.</p>

<p>Doesn't surprise me. I'm half Korean, too.</p>

<p>I hate this, I agree with you, I hope they all get rejection letters. Although, I must say we have to exchange students from Korea and they are sooo smart. One got an almost perfect PSAT score. She had perfect math and writing, and like a 76 in CR.</p>

<p>Its amazing how colleges believe students who took the SATs in other countries cannot differentiate if the students cheated or not...</p>

<p>this is really surprising. college admission for koreans from korea will have a tough time</p>

<p>It doesn't surprise me at all either.
There is a lot of things that westerners can't even imagine that are happening in East Asian countries. I've known (not just heard) some oversea college counseling agencies would help their clients cheat on extracurricular activities and honors/awards. Sometimes they would simply change the students' GPA to a much significantly higher one. Say, a student could have a 98 GPA on the application while the student's authentic GPA in his or her school is only 84. And all this will work because the admission offices have no way to prove they are cheating</p>

<p>****es me off.</p>

<p>I totally believe this. My mom told me how Korean students cheated on the Korean college entrance exams by using cellphones and such. People are such cheaters and sneaks =( The things you do to get into a good college...</p>

<p>To combat cheating, the South Koreans used to lock up the exam makers from the time the exam was finished to the end of the testing period, which was as much as two months.</p>

<p>Great...another reason to be ashamed of being Korean. </p>

<p>It does suck that koreans like those cheaters do steal other people's spots in top colleges, but you know what -- w/e. They'll fail in life anyway. </p>

<p>As a korean (but domestic applicant), I am truly upset over this...</p>

<p>I'm a Korean American and I have never felt so ****ed off at Korea before. Here I am in the states working my butt off in class, quizbowl, and tennis, and those people would go to a private academy and just get the answers for tests. </p>

<p>Next time why don't they be more blunt and say that they were SELLING the tests off? </p>

<p>I suppose that there are many places in the world that do the same practices. Who would know unless somebody has the integrity to turn them in like in this case?</p>

<p>The ETS should really stepping up the tempo to inspect and surprise check all testing centers.</p>

<p>I wonder how many people have gotten into U.S. colleges in this way, taking the spot that should have gone to an honest applicant.</p>

<p>
[quote]

I wonder how many people have gotten into U.S. colleges in this way, taking the spot that should have gone to an honest applicant.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>How many Americans have gotten into US colleges, taking the spot that might have gone to international applicants better qualified than they are? I mean, both of these are cruel, but I suppose in some twisted way the two situations balance each other out.</p>

<p>I can't really say I feel all that sorry for American applicants. I feel a lot more sorry for the other inernational students who don't cheat. Internationals have it so hard in college admissions already, this is just another thing that colleges will hold against them.</p>

<p>yeah, agree with above.</p>

<p>
[quote]
I can't really say I feel all that sorry for American applicants. I feel a lot more sorry for the other inernational students who don't cheat. Internationals have it so hard in college admissions already, this is just another thing that colleges will hold against them.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Do you know who I feel sorry for? Anybody who doesn't cheat, whether they're internationals OR domestic students. And international students don't have it that hard in college admissions. I mean, when you compare the number of international applicants versus that of domestic applicants (the former being far less than the latter), internationl students don't have it so hard. </p>

<p>And who knows how long this school has been doing this. and i don't think it's just this school. That really pi-sses me off.</p>

<p>what the hell..
when college admissions officers look at international applicants, they clearly look at SAT and AP scores since international (esp. Korean. ahem) students have a habit of making up or exaggerating their non-existent activities. and their high school GPA isn't American standards, so it's just rubbish.
but now they're cheating on SAT?! THE WHOLE FREAKING SCHOOL?
I'm glad this has been caught.</p>

<p>so ETS just cancels their SAT center?</p>

<p>they dont even cancel the students' SAT scores? </p>

<p>this is pretty upsetting news, since my baby sister is applying to college this year and (even tho she's not an international) she may have to go to school with one of these cheaters. </p>

<p>talk about no sense of integrity. what's up with these Koreans. (don't take it the wrong way, I have nothing against Koreans. just mad at this particular group).</p>

<p>wow this is messed up, i'm korean..</p>

<p>just know that they'll fail if they get into the ivies anyway, it all catches up sooner or later..</p>

<p>I'm Korean too and when I first heard this yesterday or so, I was so upset. I live in U.S like most of you guys and we work really really hard to get high SAT scores and good grades...
I don't want to cause a big controversy or anything but I heard about those foreign language high schools giving kids A's as long as they score above 70%...and they apparently let you have AP classes on your transcripts even if you haven't taken them.
I don't know what's really going on there, but this whole cheating thing is so not fair. I am so ashamed that this sort of thing happened in Korea.</p>

<p>This march 2006 article in Newsweek talks about cheating, which is so rampant in the Asian countries: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11904737/site/newsweek/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11904737/site/newsweek/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And yes, silvstargrl, I just found an article that describes that ridiculous korean GPA fraud, 70%.
<a href="http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/176484.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/176484.html&lt;/a>
It's short, but it shows the report card of any kid from hanyoung language hs, all painted with A's when he should actually be getting C's and even D's.</p>

<p>These kids shouldn't be allowed to go to college. they cheat on SATs, they cheat with their report cards. Are these people sane?</p>