College Football Discussion 07

<p>Um, as a Cal fan, you wanted USC to win that game. I don’t mean to downplay Oregon’s win and I know that it’s hard to be pro-SC, but USC probably had the best chance of dealing Oregon loss #2. It’s more likely that we go to the Rose Bowl as #1 Pac-10 tied with Oregon and SC than a BCS bowl as an at-large (with Oregon in the NCG)…</p>

<p>^ No need to worry about it now.</p>

<p>Cal is the equivalent of the Chicago Cubs in college football.</p>

<p>Should be another much hyped (3rd this season) “Game of the Century” at Autzen next week.</p>

<p>Boston College Eagles!</p>

<p>Sorry guys, you don’t get to the NC because you “deserve” it. You get there because you WIN and because of your RECORD. (ours is perfect to date)</p>

<p>If BC gets to the NC, they will get there because they won and proved they belong. Who else is sick of seeing the same old teams play in the NC? And how could it get any worse than that debacle Ohio State played last year?</p>

<p>BC is gonna win the Orange Bowl, and maybe even the NC, whether you think they deserve it or not.</p>

<p>[Man I really do not want to see BC in the national championship. Poor Hokies, in their own stadium.]</p>

<p>I’m just curious…why do you feel that way??? It’s just a little weird how there are all these anti-BC’ers out there. </p>

<p>BC has been a solid football program for many years and gone to Bowl games (OK, not the biggies) for the past 8-9 years.</p>

<p>The school and campus is awesome, great academics, top-notch D-1 sports in Hockey, Basketball & Football.</p>

<p>Maybe there’s just too much sports success going down in Boston this year with the Pat’s, Sox and Celtics?</p>

<p>I was at the bc vs vt game and trust me, when they play in the acc championship, bc is gonna lose big, the NC will be LSU and Ohio State</p>

<p>quirkily, I never expected Cal to actually make the Rose Bowl. I’d rather see a Pac-10 team in the NC game.</p>

<p>“I wasn’t able to watch the game but was following it on ESPN.com. Can someone tell me why Matt Ryan barfed on national television?”</p>

<p>After the touchdown, Ryan tackled Coach Jagz and then barfed because he “couldn’t keep up the intensity”. He spent everything to win the game, especially that last scramble.</p>

<p>“I was at the bc vs vt game and trust me, when they play in the acc championship, bc is gonna lose big, the NC will be LSU and Ohio State”</p>

<p>I really don’t see BC “losing big” to VT in the ACC championship game. The Hokies better not look too far ahead; they’ve got Georgia Tech next weekend away followed by FSU, Miami, and Virginia. A lot of things could change that could end up with VT not in the ACC championship game with how Wake Forest has been playing lately.</p>

<p>BC has FSU, Maryland, Clemson, and Miami, so there’s no guarantees there either, though I think BC has the easier of the 2 schedules.</p>

<p>Interestingly enough, Wake Forest finishes out with a falling Virginia, Clemson, a rising NC State, and Vanderbilt (SEC). Who knows how the ACC will play out?</p>

<p>i really hope Wisconsin, Oregon, Alabama, and FSU screw up the rankings this week</p>

<p>good god…kansas-nebraska is bringing up basketball scores. i’m not sure whether this would be painful or entertaining to watch–76-39 kansas, and the game isn’t even over yet…</p>

<p>^ I think Callahan will be fired before the seasons over after that disaster.</p>

<p>LSU is the best team in college football…the championship will most likely be another SEC vs. Ohio State blowout</p>

<p>Personally I’d like to see Oregon vs. LSU-- I’d think that would be a killer match up.</p>

<p>^ Pray for tOSU to be knocked off by Michigan.</p>

<p>Re Ohio State: I think the Buckeyes are a genuinely solid team. But having a cupcake schedule helps out… a lot. Put them in the SEC-- heck, put them in the PAC-10, a 5-4 Bruin team puts up more of a fight than, say, Minnesota-- and fat chance they’d get this far unbeaten. Their one legitimately big game this season will be against a Michigan that barely won out over unranked Michigan State last week. Oregon is Oregon, but the fact that Michigan-- at HOME-- managed to rack up single digit points on the Ducks says something about Michigan (great wins against, uh, Notre Dame and Eastern Michigan, though). </p>

<p>I’m just glad that Boston College lost so the horrifying prospect of a tOSU-BC Championship game is extinguished. Remember the weeks when BC and South Florida were being tossed around as potential title game contenders? Yeah.</p>

<p>Oregon or LSU needs to get in that title game, but the chances it’ll be against each other are slim. So the best I’m hoping for is a repeat of that 41-14 Florida-tOSU beat down like last year, except with one of the two instead of Florida. And next year it’ll be the same. And the next year it’ll be the same. When will tOSU’s title game run end? Not as long as their regular season opponents are the likes of Akron, Kent State and Youngstown State.</p>

<p>SEC fans can be insufferable but after this season I’m willing to believe them: the best college football is played in the South, where the best teams overall are. I don’t think any other conference has as many teams that bring consistently exciting, solid, well-played games every Saturday as the SEC. Because it certainly isn’t the Big 10, it isn’t the Big East (Cardinals? Scarlet Knights? Bulls? Huh?) and it isn’t the PAC-10 after Cal, UCLA and USC imploded (remember when they were all ranked in the top fifteen? yeah).</p>

<p>I doubt LSU will be in the championship game. With the way they’ve been playing lately with razor thin margins it’s only a matter of time before they lose again. My pick for the national championship game would probably be Oklahoma vs Oregon (Pac-10 vs. Big 12). At this point anyone outside of the top 9 has absolutely no chance of getting to the National Championship game.</p>

<p>I don’t think BC will be able to make it back up to #2, though I do think they will run the table. I think Kansas will lose at least once in the last 3 games, knocking them out of the race. OU has a good chance of running the table as does Oregon, but I think LSU will lose to Arkansas. OSU will probably lose to either Michigan or Illinois.</p>

<p>I would love to see the Oregon vs. LSU game. Although I am a pac 10 fan, I will admit that the sec is better overall. Although, I think the pac 10 is probably the 2nd best conference, so Oregon vs. LSU would a great match up. Go Michigan!!!</p>

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<p>While the SEC (this year) seems like it has more very good teams than conferences like the B10 (which has more good/average) teams – let’s not go overboard w/ the SEC hype.</p>

<p>When the top SEC teams lose to lower tier teams within the conference, SEC fanboys say it’s b/c the conference is so “deep”. </p>

<p>But when top teams from other conferences lose to lower tier teams, it’s b/c they were “overrated”.</p>

<p>It seems that SEC fanboys have a selective memory.</p>

<p>If the SEC is so “deep” - then why did:</p>

<p>(1) Bama (one of the top 4 SEC teams, thus far) lose to a middling ACC team, FSU, and need a last minute TD to beat an average B12 team, KSU (otoh, a good B10 team, Illinois, narrowly lost to one of the top B12 teams, Mizzou)?
(2) Tenn lose handily to a middling Pac10 team, Cal?
(3) Auburn (one of the top 4 SEC teams) lose to USF – which is currently 1-3 in the Big East?
(4) Miss. St. (which beat Auburn and thrashed Kentucky) in turn, get thrashed by WVU?
(5) Georgia struggle w/ Troy and Vandy only beat Miami (of Ohio), a MC team, by the same margin as it did SCarolina?</p>

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<p>Not the way LSU has been playing recently.</p>

<p>And btw, the “mighty” SEC went 1-2 against the B10 in bowl games last year and is 6-8 against the B10 over the past 5 years.</p>

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<p>Uhh, dOSU is more than a “solid” team. dOSU has thrashed PSU, Wisc. and Purdue - all pretty good teams with a 7-3 record each.</p>

<p>And why did you compare Minny, the worst team in the B10 by far, with UCLA? Minny has 1 win – all the other B10 teams have at least a .500 record (which is something you can’t say about the Pac-10 which has 4 teams w/ a losing record).</p>

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<p>Remember when Cal, Florida, SCarolina and Kentucky were ranked in the top 5-10 (and UCLA was ranked as high as 11th)?</p>

<p>Gameday at Williams/Amherst this Saturday. ?purple cow for Corso?</p>

<p>Unelss it’s a really down year. What do you guys think about this?</p>

<p>To me, I think people often are not aware of or forget that each Pac10 team plays 9 conference games (i.e. everyone). Pac10 teams usually have the toughest nonconference schedule (3 games).</p>

<p>While SEC may be a stronger or depper conference, their teams don’t necessarily play the toughest schedule because each team plays only 8 conference games except the two that play SEC championship (despite the fact it has more teams than Pac10; that means 10 of them play only 2/3 of the members in the conference). SEC nonconference games also frequently feature weak opponents–nice way to add numbers to their W column.</p>

<p>I also think Pac10 teams are at a huge disvantage in terms of getting to the bowl games when they each play 9 conference and 3 nonconference games instead of the an 8/4 split like other conferences. With a 9/3 split, the number of bowl eligible teams is going to be more limited than other conferences by default. For example, for a 12-0 team, one more win (9 instead of 8) is coming at the expense of a loss of a Pac10 member but the number of wins is still 12. Another way to look at it is that the most Pac-10 teams getting out of the nonconference game is 3-0 instead of 4-0. That’s a huge difference there. They have nothing to blame but themsevles on this though. </p>

<p>I think Pac10 should have a championship game and play 4 non-conference games. The beauty of that is each team only plays 8 conference games except the 2 that play the championshp. I will looks better to others while most won’t even notice everyone is likely getting a softer schedule. The ones that play the championship games will look even with other big boys with 13games on its schedule instead of just 12.</p>

<p>k&s: I’m not a college football expert, so I’ll let eight actual experts say it: [SI.com</a> - Writers - Bill Trocchi: Eight experts take a crack at ranking BCS conferences - Wednesday November 7, 2007 3:16PM](<a href=“http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/bill_trocchi/11/07/conference.rankings/index.html]SI.com”>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/bill_trocchi/11/07/conference.rankings/index.html)</p>

<p>For those who don’t want to read it: the SEC can easily be seen as in a league of its own, but if any conference cuts it close, its the PAC-10 and the Big-12. You know what conference just doesn’t come close? Good guess, the Big 10.</p>

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<p>All three of those may having winning records, but does the phrase “strength of schedule” mean anything to you? How exactly do you define “pretty good”? </p>

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<p>Strength of schedule. Strength of schedule. Strength of schedule. </p>

<p>The PAC-10 has two teams who are ranked in top ten (Oregon and Arizona State) and two teams in the top twenty-five (Cal and USC). Of the current top 25 teams, a whopping eight are from the SEC, and of that eight, 5 have 3(!) losses. Where in the rankings are all those Big-10 teams who have those winning records? Where in the rankings are those Big-10 teams who have three losses? Oh, right, they’re just not. But the SEC does, and the PAC-10 is close. </p>

<p>And what about those Big-10 teams that ARE ranked? Well, let’s just look at last year. The darling of the Big-10, "d"OSU, was pretty well thrashed, I believe, in the National Championship Game last year, and that was by an SEC team of which is currently only 6-3. </p>

<p>The team tOSU beat to get to that embarrassing game? Big-10 Michigan, which got whupped by the PAC-10 in the Rose Bowl (by a team which is currently only third in their conference standings after managing to lose to Stanford). This year Michigan also got its butt beat by PAC-10 Oregon, and that was AT the Big House.</p>

<p>Sorry k&s, but unless they’re from the Midwest, everyone else knows and can admit that the Big-10 sort of sucks. If Ohio State ends up in the title game again this year and actually eeks out a win, good for them. But until then: of course they should be winning on a Big-10 schedule.</p>