College Football Discussion 09

<p>Just got back from a rather strange game where USC and Oregon State had both apparently forgotten how to play defense…between the 78 points and the 911 yards of offense, I’ll be glad for USC to return to as usual on defense…</p>

<p>SEC will be a repeat of last year… Bama vs Florida. Florida will win of course.</p>

<p>BCS will be Florida vs… who cares? Gators will win it all <3 :)</p>

<p>Yeah, USC’s defense was not pretty today. But at least we still got a win.</p>

<p>But I think next week will help a lot in determining who will be in the BCS championship. Texas faces their last major hurdle, Oklahoma State. If they win, then they should be set for going to the BCS with an undefeated record. Also, USC as the highest 1-loss team right now will be playing their last major game, away at Oregon.</p>

<p>The risk for Texas would be that could defeat Oklahoma State, and then lose to the big-12 north champion…even at 1 loss, it would be difficult for Texas to make it to the BCS over 1-loss USC without even winning their own conference.</p>

<p>Also, Texas is counting on the big-12 championship game to boost their strength of schedule in the computers.</p>

<p>Or the worst case scenario for Texas, which is Oklahoma State beating Texas and winning out, in which case Texas doesn’t even win the big-12 south.</p>

<p>Of course, most of this is moot unless USC wins next week (though it still matters to Iowa/Cincy)</p>

<p>It’s such a joke, though, that USC is the top one-loss team. You act, fallaciously, as if Oregon is merely a sizeable obstruction on your path to the BCS championship game, rather than an equal or superior team.</p>

<p>On what grounds could anyone rationally defend the notion that USC is a better one-loss team than Oregon?</p>

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<p>Because they gave Reggie Bush a car.</p>

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<p>It’s in a larger metropolitan area.</p>

<p>Oregon will beat USC.</p>

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<p>Hey, I’m not assuming anything as such. USC has not won in the state of Oregon since 2005. It’s going to be a major feat if USC manages to beat Oregon.</p>

<p>Besides, it just so happens that it’s irrelevant. The two teams will play and conclusively settle the debate. Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks of it right now.</p>

<p>Oregon will be a title contender if they beat USC, however there’s the sticky situation with Boise and the head-to-head matchup - though they would probably become the top one-loss team and jump Boise anyway.</p>

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<p>It needs a LOT of help from others. All the unbeaten teams (excluding SEC) have to lose…and USC still needs to face Oregon which is probably more dangerous than any team that those unbeaten teams have to face. It’s impossible for one-loss team to jump any unbeaten teams from the other 6 major conferences or MWC or even WAC. The current BCS standing proves just that. BCS poll is different from human poll and punishes you much more for any loss.</p>

<p>Not really, though. 3 of the 6 computers rank the Pac-10 as the #1 conference (the other 3 rank it as the #2 conference behind the SEC).</p>

<p>A one-loss pac-10 champ could be ranked very highly by the computers, though it is unlikely that a one-loss pac-10 ranked #3 in the human polls would receive a big enough boost from the computers to jump to #2 (without Iowa losing).</p>

<p>Oregon, for example, sits at .770 in the computers, barely behind Texas (.790), and with a tougher schedule to follow. USC sits lower at .720, but that’s not an insurmountable gap either.</p>

<p>I don’t mind Iowa going to championship :)</p>

<p>I really dislike Texas. Let’s just hope their weak schedule hurts them enough so USC or Iowa jumps them.</p>

<p>Hopefully Iowa wins it. Big Ten gotta stand up!</p>

<p>I wouldn’t necessarily mind Iowa going either (except that it would knock out the pac-10 champ, and also it possibly sets up a USC-Ohio State rematch in the Rose Bowl)</p>

<p>I do think the Big-10 has gotten an unfair rap. It seems largely based on Ohio State’s blowout loss to Florida in 2006 (despite, for example, two years earlier, USC beat Oklahoma by an even bigger margin without any repercussion to the big-12), and also because of USC’s 10-game win streak against the big-10.</p>

<p>On Texas: using Sagarin again, Texas’s current strength of schedule (52th) is more like Boise State’s (54) and even below TCU’s (40). The only other title contender with lower is Cincinnati (76th)</p>

<p>Compare to teams like Oregon (10th), USC (12th), Iowa (15th), Georgia Tech (11th).</p>

<p>Yeah I agree with that post jbusc. </p>

<p>I also think Oregon is overrated or Purdue is underrated. Purdue should’ve won that game against Oregon… The fact that Oregon is ranked that high right now is just not going through my head. Purdue also should’ve won the ND game and beat OSU but still get no respect. Out of the five losses Purdue has 4 of them were by a TD. They lost to Oregon and ND I believe by a FG. It just depresses me… <em>Sigh</em></p>

<p>If they were 7-1 with a loss against Oregon, then yeah, but Purdue’s 3-5 with losses to Northwestern and Northern Illinois.</p>

<p>All I have to say is: CLEMSON UPSET #10 MIAMI 40-37 YESTERDAY
we control our destiny now, all we have to do is win out to get to the ACC championship game, something that I never thought would have happened after I left the Maryland stadium stunned after Clemson lost to Maryland.</p>

<p>The offense looks a lot better under Kyle Parker since the bye week after the Maryland game and the defense (DeAndre McDaniel with 7 interceptions) has always played great. Oh and did I mention CJ Spiller?</p>

<p>Driving the point home further, 4 of the 6 computer polls rank the big-10 higher than the big-12.</p>

<p>This doesn’t prove at all whether one conference is better than another, but rather that the big-10 is not so bad that the undefeated big-12 champion should receive an <em>automatic</em> bid over the undefeated big-10 champion.</p>

<p>I don’t think Oregon is overrated, rather, people abandoned them too quickly after the Boise game (I still think it’s an enormous advantage with that blue turf - come on NCAA, let’s have a rule about that!)</p>

<p>After all, Oregon came off a strong season last year where they lost to Boise (when all of their QB’s got hurt), lost @USC, @Cal, and then absolutely manhandled Oklahoma State in their bowl game (essentially the same Oklahoma State who is currently tied atop the big-12 south)</p>

<p>I guess all of these posts after mine are quite understandable…</p>

<p>“On what grounds could anyone rationally defend the notion that USC is a better one-loss team than Oregon?”
They’ve beaten OSU, Cal, and ND all on the road with a freshmen qb…it’s pretty simple actually.
If the defense looks like it did the first 5 weeks and the offense looks like it has the past two weeks USC is EASILY the best team in the country.</p>