College Football Discussion 09

<p>USCs not the best team in the country, they are good but nowhere like recent teams. OSU was an impressive win, but ND and Cal aren’t very good teams.</p>

<p>It looks like its gonna be Florida/Alabama vs. Texas.</p>

<p>SEC should win. Texas has an easy schedule. I want Texas to win and prove that A Big 12 team can hang with the SEC.</p>

<p>Hopefully UTs offense plays better.</p>

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<p>You could cherry pick the best performances from just about any top 10 team and say they’re “EASILY the best team in the country.”</p>

<p>EDIT: Ohio not Oregon, whoops</p>

<p>Oregon beat UCLA on the road with their backup QB (like a freshman considering it was his first career start), and beat Washington missing their two top cornerbacks. Did USC fare so well against such competition with similar personnel losses (i.e. did they win at Washington)? Did USC look anywhere near as competent against WSU as Oregon did? Eeking out close wins over overrated programs and demolishing a reeling team can’t be used as indicators of program quality.</p>

<p>If Andre Debose from Florida wasn’t injured, they would be the best team in football. </p>

<p>Their only weakness is the WR position and Debose would have been a huge playmaker in the passing game.</p>

<p>Andre Debose is the next Percy Harvin.</p>

<p>Injuries happen to every team…in a physical sport like football it’s part of the game. </p>

<p>Also, USC has been on the road a lot, just in terms of sheer distance traveled. They went to the midwest and back to play at Ohio State (~4000 miles RT), turned around in less than a week to go to Washington (~2000 miles) and then went all the way <em>back</em> to the midwest to play in South Bend (~4000 miles)</p>

<p>No other top-25 team has had a road schedule like that…</p>

<p>Some other top 25 schools have long travel distance also (Boise St, TCU…)
I wouldn’t say travel distance is a big factor for big schools. They all have airplanes and travel by airplanes if the game is couples states away. It might take less time for schools traveling by airplanes from East coast to West coast than small schools going by bus from say Ohio to Wisconsin.</p>

<p>“You could cherry pick the best performances from just about any top 10 team and say they’re “EASILY the best team in the country.””</p>

<p>That’s not true what has been Florida’s most impressive victory? Those big ones over Charleston Southern WOAH! Or their 13-3 victory over an overrated LSU team? Alabama’s victory over Ole Miss was good, but other than that their offense hasn’t looked good and Mark Ingram has carried that team.
Texas’ only difficult game has been against Oklahoma and that was played like a high school game, so many penalties/turnovers.
USCs victories have been against quality close to top 25 competition ND and Cal have at one point been in there and OSU is still a top 25 team (we’ll see if they deserve it when they play Iowa).
What I’m saying is that the defense can get back on track only allowing 3 against Cal, 13 against OSU etc. and the offense can stay on track producing 35+ points, yes they are the best.</p>

<p>lol ok trojanhopeful. LSU would kick ND’s and Cal’s asses up and down the field. Alabama has beaten the likes of VT, Ole Miss, and South Carolina, all by 10 points or more.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, since just barely losing to USC, tOSU has also lost to a 3-5 Purdue team and fallen down to #17 in the rankings, suggesting that they were overrated as well. Also, I suppose you have forgotten USC’s loss to WASHINGTON - yes, the 3-5 Washington team that just got destroyed by Oregon.</p>

<p>Yes, but do you really believe that Washington/Purdue would win that game more times than not? No, it’s qualified as a fluke because 9 times out of 10 USC would beat Washington.
I’m not talking about records or the BCS or anything, I’m just saying USC would probably beat most teams on a neutral field.
And you don’t know how LSU would play against ND or Cal. I’m tired of all this SEC ********, they only play themselves! How do we actually know they’re good? …need playoff, I’m convinced Pac-10 would dominate.</p>

<p>And I’ll give you Alabama they have looked good and they should be #1, but that person who says all teams have victories that could be cherry picked is wrong–only a couple do TCU, Alabama, USC and maybe Iowa.</p>

<p>No, you make a good point. Anytime a top team loses you should obviously ignore it because it must be a fluke :rolleyes:</p>

<p>actually boise st. has the best win so far with their win over oregon, followed by iowa over penn st and then bama over va tech</p>

<p>but there’s more to how good a team is than their best win</p>

<p>So you really think Washington is a better team than USC? I’m not saying it should be ignored–fitting you go to UCLA. </p>

<p>Haha just joking, it’s all in good fun.</p>

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No, but that’s irrelevant because UW isn’t anywhere near the top 10.

That was the logical conclusion of calling it a fluke.</p>

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Fact: They played the game, and Washington scored more points. Maybe it was a fluke, maybe not; but in sports, you only get credit for your performance on the field. And by calling all the results you don’t like “flukes,” you’re just coming off as a sore loser. I mean, heck, why do the teams even bother playing then? Why not just give the national championship to the preseason #1?</p>

<p>Your “arguments” really reflect badly on all USC fans.</p>

<p>You’ve totally taken my words out of context, what I’m saying is that the Washington game was not a proper reflection of their potential.
Since you like facts so much I’ll use facts:
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USC in the first five games was #1 in sacks and top 5 in rushing and passing and scoring defenses.
FACT
Averaging yards and points per game of the last two games USC has 465 yrds/game and 38 pts/game both would be 6th in the nation.</p>

<p>So they would have a top 5 defense and an offense just outside the top 5. This entire time, like when I said “I’m not talking about records or the BCS or anything, I’m just saying USC would probably beat most teams on a neutral field,” I have been saying that USC, if they played to the full potential on both sides of the ball that they have shown they are capable of playing this season, would beat most teams. You’re focusing on one sliver of my argument, the UW game. </p>

<p>And, how is it only results I don’t like? If Tennessee has beaten Alabama this weekend I would’ve said it was a fluke because Alabama has clearly shown through all their games this season they are the better team. But I still wanted Tennessee to win for obvious reasons.</p>

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First of all, calm down. It’s just a game, no need to get so worked-up over it.</p>

<p>Also, I only stated one “fact,” so I don’t get where you think that I like facts “so much.” BTW, you mentioned two, i.e. more than me.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I know USC would beat most American college football teams. The same could be said for Texas. And Oklahoma. And Pittsburgh. And Tennessee. What’s your point?</p>

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<p>I only mentioned the UW and Purdue games, and you just wrote both of them off. You never said anything about any other game; how was I supposed to know?</p>

<p>Where did you get Pittsburgh and Tennessee? And Oklahoma is 4-3…</p>

<p>Hey, whoa, fellas, let’s not get into all that :)</p>

<p>Here’s the state of things:</p>

<p>Result of a single game: Washington beat USC - they played on the field, scored more points in 60 minutes. </p>

<p>Result over a season: USC has accomplished more, won more games, and would generally be favored if USC and Washington were to rematch. Most (if not all) sports pundits, computer rankings, and Vegas lines would agree with that.</p>

<p>It’s college football, there are going to be “upsets” (a better term than “fluke”)</p>

<p>I’m not saying you ignore the upsets, but oyu can’t insist on saying that the winner of the head to head matchup is overall the better team all the time.</p>

<p>Temple is 5-2 :slight_smile:
Navy is next. Go Owls!</p>

<p>panic, USC played UW with a backup QB. They weren’t as lucky as Florida that happened to have a bye-week coming up when Tebow was hurt. Maybe that’s another point to consider…</p>