College people who can vote...

<p>CMH-</p>

<p>It is difficult to take a statement such as "I wouldn't be surpised if they allowed a dictator" out of context. </p>

<p>You have made factually incorrect statements regarding history, such as "we decided to create Isreal". Again, be specific as to whom you are referring to witht eh collective use of we and us, as in certain instances you claim they referr only to a specific group of countries, and other times to society as a whole.</p>

<p>You also claimed Iraq has turned into another Vietnam, incorrectly stated that the Roe v Wade decision was due solely to the 14th Amendment, stated we impeached clinton for adultery(it was ACTUALLY due to perjury), stated McCain doesn't respect a woman's body(he only became pro life for the primary, and would not impose any pro life laws/legislation), </p>

<p>In regards to BO, I clearly asked for concrete, tangible reasons for your support, as in his policy stances, voting record, experiance etc;. Something more than general assumptions that his presidency may or may not bring(hope, change). What will he do, specificly, and why you support his stances on key issues. Your stances include only general statements about his policies, and I stated the ambiguity in your statements. You do not mention his actual policies, just his platform. Such as, you don't go into HOW he will change education, or detail WHAT BO will do beyond extemely general statements that lack comprehensive details. It is difficult in BO's case as he's done a 180 since he recieved the nom.<br>
For example, what will BO do to "removr incentives for illegal immigration"? It sounds like a statement on his campaign website.</p>

<p>I never lost hope in the US, or the belief that people can changer themselves and their government. It never took a politician to make me feel that way.</p>

<p>Clinto was impeached for lying about adultery. Perjury, yes. But bigger lies have been told (cough, cough, WMD's).</p>

<p>Clinton</a> Impeachment</p>

<p>I think McCain becoming Pro-life for the primary is a great disrespect to women. It shows that he doesn't value a woman's right to her body more than he values winning the nomination. </p>

<p>I do support Obama's platform. For me that's enough. I would never vote for McCain. I object to his platform.</p>

<p>Can we stop debating my patriotism and my debate style and get back to the topic?</p>

<p>When did I question your patriotism? And when did I say ANYTHING about your debate style? I only asked for you to be more specific about whom you are speaking of, and that you had some major factual errors.
The clinton thing was due to him lying to a branch of gov, and a lie is a lie, regardless of the incident. There is no place for such intentional dishonesty, period.
Go back to your definition of a lie. Do you have ANY proof that Bush knowingly lied about WMDs?
A platform is temporary, policies are permenant. Platforms are used to get votes, but a someones policies and there implementation have a much greater effect than a bunch of vague and general campaign promises.
Look back to Bush's 2000 platform compared to what he actually did.
McCains switch was simply political, just like BOs abortion, FISA and alt energy switch.
Bo is incredibly vague, and has a horrible understanding of the economy.
My view is that a true democratic nation needs not to have such a reliance on big gov. Free society is about choices and oppurtunties. The more gov intervenes in both personal matters and business, the more taxes and the more regulation that occurs, the less freedom people have.</p>

<p>By October at the latest, I predict there will be a "conflict" (war) between Iran and Israel, and the Israelis are going initiate it well before President Bush leaves office. And by conflict/war, I don't see it being like Iraq; it's probably going to be a tactical operation targeting specific Iranian nuclear facilities instead of a full-scale invasion. </p>

<p>Tying this into the discussion, this (inevitable) conflict is probably only going to help McCain, though it could also backfire (unlikely IMO, but still possible). But without a doubt, Ahmadinejad needs to go and I think this is only the beginning; interesting months ahead...</p>

<p>But regardless, I am going to vote for John McCain, conflict-or-not.</p>

<p>obama - socialist
mccain - warmonger sellout
barr - cia</p>

<p>If i decide to vote it will prolly be chuck baldwin</p>

<p>So rather than a socialist, a warmonger, and Mr. CIA, you're voting for a religious nutjob who actually believes in the NWO? LMAO @ you...</p>

<p>all the connotations i gave have factual significance...nutjob is just an opinionated ad hominen on the man</p>

<p>HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA and it's a fact that he believes in the NWO...</p>

<p>i really don't like any of the candidates, i wish michael bloomberg, mayor of NYC, would run</p>

<p>McCain. Though i dont like his beliefs on global warming because it doesnt exsist. Universal health care is awful example Canada. Canadians come down to U.S. for health care because theres is awful, there is no drive to make better products when ppl get payed the same. Also universal health care will lead to outsourcing of 100's of thousands of jobs in the U.S. Abortion is disgusting, just because its your body doesnt mean you can F***ing kill somebody. Taxing the windfall profits of big oil companyies and putting a price ceiling on oil will lead to one of two things. A) Price of gas increases dramiticly B) Oil company's stop selling oil. Socialism is a very bad thing it has never worked and wont work. Socialism= everybody suffers equally. If you dont like the standard of livingin the U.S. go to a different country you schmucks. Try living in a third world nation in Africa and tell me how bad living in the U.S. In the U.S. most people that fall in the poverty line have a place of shelter, running water, food, electronics (phone, tv, cell phone, computer), car to me that isnt that poor.</p>

<p>McCain, for different reasons and explanations from the above poster.</p>

<p>This is of course, not in depth, nor explanations/arguments, but simply what I believe.
I believe the environment / alternative energy sources is the most important issue this election.
Universal healthcare won't work in the United States, as wonderful as it may be. Traveling abroad, I have realized that the United States is "behind" in many policies and technologies, but simply because there is no possible way they can be effective or practical on the federal level. I am, on the other way, supportive of establishing such programs on more local levels.
I'm pro-life, because I believe abortion is murder, but what you want to do when in the bedroom is completely up to you.</p>

<p>"Socialism is a very bad thing it has never worked and wont work. Socialism= everybody suffers equally."
Except, say, in some small countries in Europe? Or in local religious communities?
I'm not a supporter of socialism due a difference in how much I value equality versus freedom, along with how I think socialist policies would apply to the United States, but you can't blanket statement something like that.</p>

<p>"Try living in a third world nation in Africa and tell me how bad living in the U.S."
It's not fair to tell people to try living in the poorest of nations, when they could have high standards of living living in wealthy nations in Asia and Europe.</p>

<p>"In the U.S. most people that fall in the poverty line have a place of shelter, running water, food, electronics (phone, tv, cell phone, computer), car to me that isnt that poor."
Not that I know the statistics, but did you assume this?</p>

<p>McCain for sure.</p>