<p>it’s for the OP’s lol relax.</p>
<p>oh good i thought you were telling me to shoot myself</p>
<p>i was getting pretty worried there</p>
<p>Prothero - you’re going to Hamburger U, aren’t you? Seriously, this is an honest question, and not intended as an insult. It might explain a few things.</p>
<p>Your arguments is basically no more than “moral relativism” - just two words, and you contribute nothing to the philosophy or the basis of moral relativism, other than the fact that you obviously hold this perspective. I am not saying moral relativism is wrong, but merely that you have no argument, other than referring to a general school of thought.</p>
<p>I know plenty about evolutionary psychology - your argument shows little understanding of it at all. Your reasoning is simply - conditions lead one to rape - thus one can’t be held accountable. First of all, of course one can. Secondly, by your argument, no one can be held accountable for anything, ever. Since all of us are just genetic sacs with illusory free will, predetermined by our genetics and environment to decide and behave as we do, truly then, no one can truly be blamed for any action they commit. For it is all predetermined. And by that logic, you should simply jump off a 100 story building - because all actions are predetermined and outside of your control, so it’s your inescapable fate anyway. In other words - your arguments are as moronic as you are.</p>
<p>You argue terribly, and merely say that you are “challenging beliefs” - akin to a Glenn Beck rabble rouser I suppose.</p>
<p>Well, if you’re a moral relativist, why are you upset that people are insulting you? Why are you upset if I presume that I own this thread and that your comments are too infantile for me to read? I have not injured you in any manner; such is “subjective,” and I don’t hold the same values as you so what grounds do you have to complain.</p>
<p>Aside from moral arguments, arguments against rape and murder can be made through several legal philosophers and legal arguments (such as why we should have a government that forbids us from violating others’ rights at all) - or merely utilitarian arguments (society will condemn you in several ways).</p>
<p>But if you are really sociopathic, and have no morals - which despite perhaps your desire to believe yourself so, I can tell by your text that you are simply a normal, bored, frustrated kid - I would recommend that you keep your sociopathic tendencies to yourself, as most do - for if society or really anyone discovered you for who you are, your manipulations and games would certainly lead to a great deal of suffering for yourself.</p>
<p>I can also tell that you seem to be personally annoyed by me. Judging by the fact that you consider me some sort of womanizer or ladies man - though nothing in my own posts has indicated this - I can only infer that the fact that I have minimal confidence, basic social skills, and such tame experiences as actually having been on a date or made out with someone - experiences you consider supreme accomplishments - reveal that you are extremely naive and insecure, and probably as a result, have a very toxic perspective on life, especially women.</p>
<p>I recommend that, until you get a little more life experience and can speak more intelligently on matters concerning the world, you should stop embarassing yourself. Otherwise, continue. Your attempts at sounding intelligent provide great fodder for my amusement.</p>
<p>Also, can you send me your address? I’d like to subjectively smash in your mailbox. Subjectively, of course. Reality is all relative and there is no objective reality, don’t you know.</p>
<p>spiderman is easily ■■■■■■■</p>
<p>He’s not a moral relativist, he’s a moral nihilist… jeeze!</p>
<p>“Also, can you send me your address? I’d like to subjectively smash in your mailbox. Subjectively, of course. Reality is all relative and there is no objective reality, don’t you know.”</p>
<p>What are you even talking about? Everybody needs to stop being philosophers for a moment…</p>
<p>Instead of conforming, we should conform to nonconformity to avoid being manipulated by society. ;)</p>
<p>“College rape victims offer advice to others in their plight”
That is all I’m saying.</p>
<p>Yes, rape is pretty serious. It’s even more serious than murder in my opinion. Murderers shouldn’t be executed. Rapists, well executing them, will just lessen their pain. They should suffer. Put them in a remote island and torture them. Lol. That should teach them. Just keep the Animal Rights people away… that’s all. 
Why is this so green, man… seriously…</p>
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<p>I can’t believe that some people have so much free time, while other people including me a busy applying to things.</p>
<p>It’s a sad fact, but it is part of the real world. Luckily, I’m not the party girl (don’t drink/do drugs), and I don’t “hang out” with large groups of people, so I won’t ever have to worry about these kinds of things.</p>
<p>But one thing I’ve always been told is to NEVER leave your drink alone and if you do, THROW IT AWAY. And don’t go walking out at night by yourself. It’s dangerous. If you follow those simple rules and don’t get drunk every weekend with a large group of people/strangers, your chances of getting raped are very slim. Dead serious.</p>
<p>Well, I’m a male. Lol. If I get raped… how would I react? It depends on the raper’s appearance I guess… lol.</p>
<p>^ when men get raped, it’s usually by other men.
and if it was an actual rape (forced penetration against your will) I don’t think you’d be lol’ing :)</p>
<p>I know… I know… I’m just joking man… dont take it seriously… cheers :)</p>
<p>^ just pointing it out since a lot of people think, “well how can a woman rape a man?” without realizing it’s usually other guys doing the raping…</p>
<p>on desperate houswives a man was raped by a woman, because she made him unconcious and gave him a lot of viagra…i guess it’s possible. haha watch out :P</p>
<p>“It’s a sad fact, but it is part of the real world. Luckily, I’m not the party girl (don’t drink/do drugs), and I don’t “hang out” with large groups of people, so I won’t ever have to worry about these kinds of things.”</p>
<p>Sweetheart… time for a SERIOUS reality check. You could not possibly be more wrong.</p>
<p>“But one thing I’ve always been told is to NEVER leave your drink alone and if you do, THROW IT AWAY. And don’t go walking out at night by yourself. It’s dangerous. If you follow those simple rules and don’t get drunk every weekend with a large group of people/strangers, your chances of getting raped are very slim. Dead serious.”</p>
<p>You are completely ignoring that the vast majority of rapes are situations in which the rapist is someone the victim knows, and the rape may very well occur in the victims own home. Most rapes are not parties gone wrong or dark alley situations. </p>
<p>Your ignorance is very seriously dangerous and I hope you do some research and wise up before you get hurt.</p>
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But a lot of those rapes could have been prevented had people been more cautious. Going out getting wasted or bringing strangers back to your dorm room are risky behaviors as well as walking alone at night, leaving your drinks unattended (and drinking them again), and staying out all hours of the night in places you are not familiar with.</p>
<p>And no, the chances of me getting raped are slim to nil. Why? Because I’m a “safe” person. I don’t drink and party, I don’t walk all alone at night, I don’t leave my drinks unattended, nor do I bring guys into my dorm room. I don’t put myself in situations where bad things can happen and you can call me ignorant if you want, but there is a hell of a lot of truth in what I’m saying.</p>
<p>And yeah, rape victims tend to know their rapists. Makes sense, because you are far more likely to not be as cautious around a friend than a stranger.</p>
<p>I don’t drink or party, don’t leave drinks unattended, don’t bring guys into my dorm room, nor did I even have any friends when I was raped. At the time I was raped, I had never drank or gone to a party, and was a virgin. I was a good girl who went to school and work and came home, never out past 9pm. A “boyfriend” I had been seeing for nearly five months raped me in my own home the moment I opened the door when he showed up for a lunch date. You, dear, are misinformed. While doing all those things may lessen your chances of being raped, your naive assumption that that means you’re safe significantly increases your chances of being raped in just the same fashion I was.</p>
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<p>What TwistedKiss was saying, is that just b/c you take a whole lot or precautions does not mean that rape can’t/won’t happen. I agree with both TwistedKiss and your logic but don’t assume that you are immune–no one is immune, male or female. </p>
<p>What you are saying akin t you being in Beverly Hills and not having to ever worry about getting mugged/robbed b/c the area is so nice and clean. Your chances are lowered and even if you don’t walk around with 100$ bills sticking out of your back pocket doesn’t mean that you can’t get robbed/mugged. You can still get robbed anywhere. Don’t assume that it won’t happen to you. I hope that makes some sense…</p>
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<p>I’m sorry to hear that happened. I really am, but I’m still going to have to disagree. You even admitted to inviting your rapist into your room for a lunch date, and while I am not saying that you are at fault (because you are not), I don’t allow my boyfriend into my dorm room/area, nor do I go to his. Period. </p>
<p>The only time I’d ever bring him into the room is if I want to have sex. But right now, this virgin ain’t in a big rush to do so. And I’m sorry if you think I’m stupid or ignorant or whatever, but bringing boys into the room, for whatever reason other than sex, really just isn’t a good idea. </p>
<p>I’ll continue to think however, but I know I’m taking the necessary precautions to be safe, and that includes keeping my dorm room locked at all times, especially when I’m asleep.</p>
<p>Again, I’m sorry to hear that happened to you. You didn’t deserve/ask for it. But one thing I have noticed is that when college girls do get raped, alcohol is almost always involved, along with plenty of other dumb decisions.</p>
<p>“I’m sorry to hear that happened. I really am, but I’m still going to have to disagree. You even admitted to inviting your rapist into your room for a lunch date, and while I am not saying that you are at fault (because you are not), I don’t allow my boyfriend into my dorm room/area, nor do I go to his. Period.”</p>
<p>No, dear. I opened the front door to my house to someone I had known for 6 months, planning to walk with him to a public place. You’re telling me you never answer your front door when you’re home?</p>