<p>I've come back to this again, but can't get over it - just look at the stats - acceptance at COE is Wayy higher than CAS.</p>
<p>Arts & Sciences 2687/12357</p>
<p>Engineering 1852/4859</p>
<p>doesn't really make sense to me -- for someone who, at CAS, would do economics, or chemistry, somethng like that (not like slavic languages or anything totally artsy), why not apply to COE?</p>
<p>struggling to understand. I know you can differentiate yourself in essays and all, but can't you do that at COE as well, and thus have a higher chance? Essays can pretty much be tailored, esp for ppl who aren't sure what they're doing..</p>
<p>comments?</p>
<p>because engineering is self selective, it's a more pure focus to science... it's not 'easier' in truth because those applying tend to have better stats, etc.</p>
<p>because engineering is self selective, it's a more pure focus to science</p>
<p>sorry i don't get what you mean...</p>
<p>Wrt higher stats, I'm sure all applicants to cornell have high stats - why the discrepancy in admission %. </p>
<p>Even if engg do indeed have higher stats, lets say I have high stats too. Then how would you answer the question posed? just playing devil's advocate here want to find out I'm intrigued by this..</p>
<p>Go look at the SAT averages for both schools; Engineering is higher. Each school at Cornell is pretty much equally hard to get into (with the exception of Hotel and AAP as they look for entirely different things); the reason Engineering has a higher acceptance rate (I suspect) is because there is a higher proportion of stronger applicants (i.e. higher SAT and GPA) applying to Engineering than to the other schools.</p>
<p>what i meant, perhpas i should've separated the two thoughts</p>
<p>self selective because only a certain type of applicant applies to engineering, one who knows they want to do a pure science field. This is what i meant by the pure focus to science comment</p>
<p>engineering has somewhat lopsided scores, math is higher than verbal... but overall sats are higher for engineering (composite scores)...</p>
<p>i'm doing a horrible job answering your questions if i am at all...</p>
<p>but for the differentiating yourself from other high scorers, yes you can tailor make essays, but a true passion would show, i.e. if someone really cared about siemens or intel, and they wrote about it in their essay, it would be much more genuine than one saying, oh i like science, they have cool toys</p>
<p>alright there seem to be 2 parallel questions running now</p>
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<li>Why is COE acceptance rate higher than CAS?</li>
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<p>thanks pumpkin maybe that is the reason. also, perhaps cos of fewer applicants? less than half that of CAS..</p>
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<li>and my original qn, for someone who, at CAS, would do economics, or chemistry, somethng like that (not like slavic languages or anything totally artsy), why not apply to COE? struggling to understand. I know you can differentiate yourself in essays and all, but can't you do that at COE as well, and thus have a higher chance? Essays can pretty much be tailored, esp for ppl who aren't sure what they're doing..</li>
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<p>thanks for your replies cujoe. I'm not sure we've quite arrived at an answer-</p>
<p>about the pure science thingum, I partly started this also because someone had said it is quite easy ( lets not debate the extent of ease) to transfer colleges. If this is the case, what does it matter?</p>
<p>If your answer is that a 'true applicant' shows, I think I'm inclined to disagree with you - perhaps you may not be a 'true' applicant, but a good essay, good scores, you have a better shot than CAS?</p>
<p>Again, devil's advocate, not tryign to start a fight or anything - i include this because I've seen threads where messages can come across as hostile when I'm not always sure they were meant to.</p>
<p>lol, i know ur not trying to start a flame war...</p>
<p>i really don't know... engineering is just... engineering, it wouldn't be a back door to the college since an applicant who could stand in the engineering pool would be a good applicant in the cas pool, nor would it be advantageous to try it...</p>
<p>thats the thing - if a student is a good shot at both colleges, then why not apply to engg where you have a statisticaly better shot? obv it wud be advantageous if you're more likely to be accepted? </p>
<p>remember there was also a consideration that this person X doesnt mind doing econs, chem, engineering, undecided. Also, cornell says it is fine to change college - 10% of ppl do.</p>
<p>Someone who wanted to do some pure sciency thing probably wouldn't want to take some of the intro courses Engineers have to. The required maths are probably going to be harder in Engineering than in CAS; likewise, the other requirements (Physics and Chem) are probably classes that an econ major wouldn't want to take.</p>
<p>i think you've just about got the answer there. I know it doesnt really really make sense, but pragmatism and probability are hard to ignore...</p>
<p>orite, question here - </p>
<p>cornell supplement says MAXIMUM 250.
usually it says ABOUT,</p>
<p>is cornell really strict -? i got 292, and ~ 250</p>
<p>pragmatism > probability, i.e. do what's right, not what's easiest</p>
<p>think about it, should you keep a job with a steady paycheck (pragmatism)</p>
<p>or buy thousands of lottery tickets because the odds are good (probability)</p>
<p>actually cujoe, thats not really a very good example. </p>
<p>in this case, pragmatism = better chance of getting in,
probability = better chance of getting in.</p>
<p>i thought u were referring to pragmatism in the sense of not taking intro courses etc. oops</p>
<p>sorry, ok no probs, alright.</p>