<p>I recently read about something called OutofState waivers that public colleges offer to such applicants. Which colleges offer this?</p>
<p>Are you talking about schools that give either OOS waivers or large scholarships to high stats students so that the cost is similar (or lower) than the instate rate? Some state schools do have these waivers, and some are legally prohibited from offering them, so they give merit scholarships instead.</p>
<p>What is it that you want? What is your budget?</p>
<p>Are you an American? If not, then many of these offers won’t apply to you. However, some will.</p>
<p>University of Minnesota Morris does not charge additional tuition to non-residents. But that is rare.</p>
<p>However, a few public universities are low price even at out of state list price (e.g. those in the Dakotas).</p>
<p>Hi!</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids -
Yeah, I’m international - should’ve mentioned that. So, which college have this or the merit scholarships for internationals?</p>
<p>My budget is COA 16k$ per yr.</p>
<p>@ucbalumnus -
Which of such colleges have reasonable recognition and offer good CS and/or engineering programs?</p>
<p>Also, what are the types of colleges? - LACs offer almost everything most of the time, but what about normal colleges(such a thing?) and tech schools?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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<p>You mentioned engineering, and very few LACs offer engineering - there are a few, but not many.</p>
<p>I would think your best bet, if you have reasonably high stats, would be to cast a wide net among less-selective private universities that have engineering programs and are known for generous merit aid - or, as ucbalumnus says, perhaps some of the lowest-cost state schools like the University of North Dakota. As long as your school’s engineering program is ABET-certified, you don’t really gain anything from more prestige.</p>
<p>What are your stats?</p>
<p>Alabama is one of the few schools with ABET accredited engineering that give large merit scholarships to int’ls that have the required stats. You must apply early and get accepted by Dec 1st…that’s req’d for int’ls.</p>
<p>The apps go online in July. You should apply then and get all your int’l paperwork in ASAP.</p>
<p>So, as an engineering major, if you have a 3.5+ GPA…AND either a 1400+ M+CR SAT or a 32+ ACT, then you’d get free tuition plus 2500 per year. So, your family contribution of $16k per year would cover the rest of your expenses. (Actually, as an eng’g major, you’d get the same value of scholarships with an ACT 30+ or SAT 1330+ - because the Col of Eng’g kicks in the difference.)</p>
<p>Few schools with ABET eng’g are going to only cost you $16k per year (COA for int’ls).</p>
<p>South Dakota State University has a pretty good EECS department and I believe the rack-rate COA is somewhere around $16k.</p>
<p>m2ck, is there an essay or LORs to apply online?</p>
<p>no. no essays, no LORs…very easy apps Must do both the school app and the scholarship app. But, the scholarship app is done a couple of days after the school app.</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids -</p>
<p>I have a 3.8 GPA and a 2170 SAT 1.</p>
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<p>I don’t understand what you mean…?</p>
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<p>Of course, Ivies would be the best bet, however, admission is infinitely harder. Right?</p>
<p>@noimagination-</p>
<p>I’ll check that out. Thanks!</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids -</p>
<p>I have a 3.8 GPA and a 2170 SAT 1.</p>
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<h2>Actually, as an eng’g major, you’d get the same value of scholarships with an ACT 30+ or SAT 1330+ - because the Col of Eng’g kicks in the difference.</h2>
<p>I don’t understand what you mean…?</p>
<p>What I meant is that an engineering student with a 1330 M+CR SAT would end up with Full Tuition plus $2500 as well because the Col of Eng’g gives an additional scholarship. </p>
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<h2>Few schools with ABET eng’g are going to only cost you $16k per year (COA for int’ls).</h2>
<p>Of course, Ivies would be the best bet, however, admission is infinitely harder. Right?</p>
<p>Yes, admission is very difficult, especially for int’ls. And who knows how much an ivy would expect you to pay.</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids -</p>
<p>Ok.</p>
<p>Also, how much would a set of really good essays help ivy admission, if I haven’t won numerous National competitions, but have done a lot of stuff otherwise? What are some aspects of my app that really matter for ivy admissions - stuff I should strengthen.</p>
<p>And, they can’t expect you to pay more than family income right? - which is around 20k$.
Most aid package samples indicate 20% of family income as expected contribution, and 15k$ is 75$%. Of course, some of this may come from loans ( if necessary ). Any ideas?</p>
<p>And, they can’t expect you to pay more than family income right? - which is around 20k$.</p>
<p>How can your family pay $16k per year for college if their income is $20k???</p>
<p>We have some money already ( lived in USA for 7yrs - not alot though) and we can sell a plot of land, if necessary.</p>
<p>What about -
Also, how much would a set of really good essays help ivy admission, if I haven’t won numerous National competitions, but have done a lot of stuff otherwise? What are some aspects of my app that really matter for ivy admissions - stuff I should strengthen.</p>
<p>Following up on the above comments:</p>
<p>South Dakota State University:
[Cost</a> Estimate](<a href=“http://www.sdstate.edu/admissions/financing/undergrad/cost/index.cfm]Cost”>http://www.sdstate.edu/admissions/financing/undergrad/cost/index.cfm)
[Accredited</a> Programs details](<a href=“http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramsDetails.aspx?OrganizationID=104]Accredited”>http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramsDetails.aspx?OrganizationID=104)</p>
<p>University of Alabama:
[Scholarships</a> - Undergraduate Students - The College of Engineering - The University of Alabama<a href=“ask%20them%20directly%20about%20whether%20international%20students%20are%20eligible;%20if%20you%20get%20the%20full%20tuition%20+%20$2,500%20per%20year,%20remaining%20cost%20of%20attendance%20is%20probably%20around%20$12,000%20per%20year”>/url</a>
[url=<a href=“http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramsDetails.aspx?OrganizationID=359]Accredited”>http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramsDetails.aspx?OrganizationID=359]Accredited</a> Programs details](<a href=“http://eng.ua.edu/undergraduate/scholarships/]Scholarships”>Scholarships – College of Engineering | The University of Alabama)</p>
<p>You may also want to ask University of Alabama Huntsville if their Silver (full tuition for GPA 3.0 and SAT CR+M 1360) and Blue (full ride for GPA 3.0 and SAT CR+M 1490) scholarships are available to international students.
[UAHuntsville</a> - Entering Freshmen](<a href=“http://www.uah.edu/financial-aid/aid/scholarships/new-freshmen]UAHuntsville”>http://www.uah.edu/financial-aid/aid/scholarships/new-freshmen)
[Accredited</a> Programs details](<a href=“http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramsDetails.aspx?OrganizationID=361]Accredited”>http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramsDetails.aspx?OrganizationID=361)</p>
<p>Thanks for the links! I’ll read them now.</p>
<p>Also, though I understand that recognition isn’t necessarily a big deal, some reports show major variations in salaries between undergrads from different colleges. So, in this respect, how much value does an engineering degree from U Alabama have?
Also, how interactive and informative is their CS program? Maybe not Ivy level, but otherwise, how do ex-students view their education?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>some reports show major variations in salaries between undergrads from different colleges. So, in this respect, how much value does an engineering degree from U Alabama have?</p>
<p>Differences in engineering salaries is NOT usually based on undergrad. Salaries differ by REGION because of cost of living. </p>
<p>Several members of my family (including my H) are hiring engineer managers, directors, VPs. They do NOT pay engineers more money based on their undergrad. Everyone starts at the same rate. A Cornell grad, a Purdue grad, a GT grad, an Auburn grad, a CSUF grad, a CSULB grad…all start the at the same pay.</p>
<p>Alabama grads get paid the same as other new hires.</p>
<p>That said, as an int’l, you probably wouldn’t get hired in the US unless you got residency here. Int’ls can’t work here without the right documentation.</p>
<p>Oh,OK. I didn’t know that. I read some Return-on-Investment studies on Bloomberg, and some value-for-money lists on the Princeton Review, so I had an incorrect idea.</p>
<p>What type of documentation? Some of my cousins are working there after their undergrad.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>An employer has to sponsor you for a work visa. This limits the number of employers you can look at, since many of the smaller ones do not want to go through the hassle (as opposed to hiring someone who does not need a work visa). Those whom you’d be competing with for jobs at employers willing to sponsor work visa are also more likely to have graduate degrees, rather than just bachelor’s degrees.</p>
<p>@mom2collegkids-</p>
<p>Also, do they prefer Ivy undergrads over other colleges undergrads for employment?</p>
<p>@ucbalumnus -</p>
<p>However, would an undergrad who really utilized his college years to gain experience and worked on numerous projects have a better chance at employment?</p>