<p>this whole rep thing is getting annoying. personally, i think cornell undergrad outranks both columbia and dartmouth.</p>
<p>every cornell undergrad i know disagrees with you. but hey, you know, whatever.</p>
<p>So how does Columbia compare with a school like Harvard or Yale in Shanghai?</p>
<p>In China, Harvard is the most well-known of the three. Next is Columbia. Yale is not as popular or well-known because most Chinese who apply to American Universities focus more on science and research. Yale's science facilities of course lag behind those of Harvard and Columbia. Also Columbia's attractive location in NYC also contributes to its brandname.</p>
<p>Then MIT would be a powerhouse if they focus on science and research.</p>
<p>Yup yup. MIT, Caltech, and UCBerkeley are among the most popular.</p>
<p>I disagree with Forest, Yale is VERY well known in Shanghai and Hong Kong. The shanghai newspapers actually interviews high school Chinese students who gets into Yale..I read about them, the last one was a girl who had a 2300+ SAT and studied for a year in Japan.</p>
<p>I bet the Chinese newspapers will probably interview students who get accepted to Harvard, MIT, and Columbia to a higher degree. It's just that not many get accepted each year, so you don't see them often in newspapers. I know a Chinese girl who got accepted into MIT and was all over the newspaper in Beijing. Same with a guy who got into Harvard.</p>
<p>columbia attracts more students, smart students, a majority of whom apply because of its nyc location, in turn affecting other things. you can't deny that its location plays a huge part in rankings and rep.</p>
<p>Oh this is silly... I think some the Chinese people (in china) make too big of a deal out of some of the ivys... even though they've never heard of Brown (?????????????????????????????????) When I said I might apply to Brown, my uncle flipped out and screamed YOU ARE NOT APPLYING TO A DESIGN SCHOOL lol...
Oh, and I think the Cali schools (ie, UC) are more popular among the Chinese Americans than the Chinese... at least from people I've meet...</p>
<p>Asian people seem to be obsessed with prestige.</p>
<p>haha...I'm Asian and I do admit I care, but prob. less than the standard Asian...if I ranked all the colleges I applied to, prestige would be a factor but not a major one.</p>
<p>Columbia has the 2nd most Nobelists - only slightly behind Cambridge. But Chicago is also just slightly behind Columbia.</p>
<p>According to Wikipedia, "Columbia is tied with the University of Cambridge for the most Nobel Prize affiliations of any institution in the world."</p>
<p>I'm not sure if it's accurate or not. Did more Nobel Prize winners jump onto the Columbia bandwagon?</p>
<p>By now every student and parent has either read or heard about the record low admission rate at Columbia. Stastistics such as these should be taken with a bit of scepticism.As all of you know post 9/11 took a toll on the number of applicants applying to New York schools. Two of my children were planning to apply to Columbia and filled out a pre application,later they had decided on another ivy as their early decision choice. They liked Columbia very much however they knew it was not their number one choice. They were both accepted to their early decision ivy and notified the state schools that they would not be attending. They did not notify Columbia because an application was never submitted. A few days after their acceptance to the other school Columbia was sending them information as though they were applicants. I became concerned when the e-mails began followed by phone calls for interviews. We contacted Columbia several times to insure that they were aware that our sons had accepted the early decision.We were concerned that there would be a problem accepting one school while another school still had them listed as perspective students. Please note Columbia appears to be the only ivy with this pre-application I believe that every student who filled out this form was counted as an applicant when in fact they had never completed the process due to the decision to go elsewhere. Now back to my original thought, I think it is possible that these stastistics are particularly skewed to make Columbia appear to be the most selective ivy. I do not believe that students from around the world have suddenly viewed Columbia as THE school to apply to. Beware of stats they do not necessarily prove statistically correct.</p>
<p>Momma-three, it's not cool spam the board and post your same baseless and incorrect flame on multiple threads.</p>
<p>Um columbia has no pre-application. You are thinking of WashU.</p>
<p>There is no mistake here. Columbia most certainly has an application that a student fills out prior to receiving the application. As I already mentioned my sons were E-mailed through out the process to forward their missing materials (this was not just once or twice) and contacted on separate occasions to interview. Just yesterday, they received a letter from Columbia that they could not be considered for admission because of missing information in their file. I am impressed with the contact that Columbia has made to its "prospective students" however I do believe these pre-applicants are considered in the BIG NUMBER PICTURE.</p>
<p>By the way columbia 2002 an open mind is a wonderful thing.</p>
<p>Pre-Applications? I've already been accepted and I never filled out any Pre-Application to Columbia. Where did you find this? Maybe you're confusing the terminology?
"Please note Columbia appears to be the only ivy with this pre-application"
Um... Darmouth has a pre-application, but CU doesn't. Can you just provide us with a link to the "CU pre-application"?
As an int. CU applicant myself, I can only say that tons of int. high school kids from my country applied to CU this year. Of the ppl I know, most got rejected and a few got waitlisted. The reason why ppl applied was because they saw CU as being on a par with HYP.</p>