Columbia Sciences Po Dual Degree 2018 Entry

It’s actually not on the portal but on your admission letter. If you scroll down, you will be able to see it.

I was accepted for the Euro Africa program in Reims as well!!! But the financial aid doesn’t look great :confused: so I’m not sure I can afford it…

Does the program meet full need BOTH at Reims or Le Havre or Menton AND at Columbia, UCL, or UBC?

Menton Campus!! I am so super excited to have been accepted!

I quickly just wanted to ask a few questions relating specifically to Columbia (@GSTourGuides). Seeing as all of us that were accepted will graduate with a degree issued by the Columbia School of General Studies, how competitive of a bachelor’s degree is it when it comes to graduate school enrollment? Ive spent a lot of time today looking at the difference between Columbia College and GS, and while the two have become increasingly interchangeable (we take the same courses, we’re taught by the same professors, both are part of greater Columbia University… the only difference being the language in which the diploma is written), my question was mainly geared towards the perception graduate schools and potential employers have towards a GS graduate.

My second question is as follows: given that Dual BA applicants are not allowed to apply both to Columbia through the Common App and to the Dual BA program at the same time, why can’t we pass on legacy status to our children in the future? Silly question, I know, especially because I’m asking about something that’ll only become relevant years down the line, yet in my eyes I think this policy is strange. I understand that the majority of Columbia GS students are typically older (i.e. “unconventional” applicants), thereby possibly warranting the fact that they can’t pass Legacy status on. For us Dual BA students however, we, again, couldn’t also apply to Columbia College. Therefore, how is the following policy justified: “applicants are considered to be ‘legacies’ of Columbia only if they are the children of Columbia College or Columbia Engineering graduates.” (http://undergrad.admissions.columbia.edu/ask/faq/question/2412)

Finally, how is the transition from SciencesPo into Columbia? Is it generally easy for students to transition to life in New York, amongst a potentially brand new group of classmates?

Menton Admit here as well!

Hi everyone! Please find responses to recent questions below-

@chss101 For specific financial aid questions, we encourage you (and everyone else!) to reach out to gsfinancialaid@columbia.edu to ask about your specific situation. If you’d like, please feel free to DM this account for more on contacting GS and I can point you to speak people.

@Sidewalksz GS students and Dual BA students in particular have had incredible success in the world of job and grad school applications recently. Students have gone on to continue their studies at Harvard, Oxford, Columbia, LSE and all sorts of other schools. Notably, Columbia’s only two Rhodes Scholars in the last few years have both come from the Dual BA with SciencesPo. In terms of job offers, I know recent graduates working in fields ranging from investment banking to refugee resettlement in the US, France, and elsewhere.

In regards to your second question about legacy, I do not have an explanation as to why this policy difference exists between GS and CC/SEAS. Perhaps it is because the two schools developed at different times, but I do not know for sure. What I can tell you is that GS is committed to individual students’ stories and interests, not their family legacy, and assembles its student body as such. I also wanted to point out that the link you posted is from the FAQ section of CC/SEAS admissions, not Columbia as a whole. It’s referring to its own admissions policy within CC/SEAS and not speaking on behalf of the University, which contains many schools that have their own policies.

@MYOS1634 I can only speak on behalf of the Dual BA with Columbia, and not UBC or UCL. The financial aid information sent with admissions offers is only for the final two years of the program at Columbia.

Please continue to reach out with more questions and we hope to see many of you next month at Admitted Students’ Day!

@mflipw1999 It is such amazing oppotunity to have been accepted, I think you should try to do a fundraising, maybe ask around or create a site on the internet where people could give money even if it a little bit. I know a few people who did things like this and in the end it can give something really great

I would also recommend that you all take some time to look for and apply to as many outside scholarship programs as possible. Sometimes parents’ employers offer them, as well as non-profits and affinity groups. Columbia can help you if you receive an outside scholarship while you’re at SciencesPo. You can have the scholarship funds send directly to Columbia and they can then credit your account so that you can directly pay SciencesPo with the funding. Every bit adds up, and for those of you strongly considering accepting your offers and moving to France in the fall, you now have a very interesting story to share on your applications! From personal experience, I can tell you that speaking about the Dual BA on scholarship applications is a great asset. Best of luck to you all and as always, please continue to reach out with your questions!

@rk3314 No way thats insane!!! Cant wait to meet you bro! Do you know anyone other than us two thats also been accepted to Menton???

I am an international student who is very keen to join this program next year. I would appreciate guidance from you all. If you can post your stats, ECs and tips, it will guide me in getting my activities and stats to the same level. Thank you so much for doing this.

Hi @psekhon55 ! I am here on behalf of Dual BA Admissions at Columbia and wanted to reach out to say that this isn’t the kind of program that’s necessarily looking for what a “traditional” college program would be looking for in an application, like a minimum SAT or certain kinds of extracurricular activities and leadership positions. Other students’ statistics will not be of much use to you without context. I would encourage you not to consider joining activities or seeking out opportunities just for the sake of applying, but rather to really do things that make you tick and get you excited. This program is all about showing what you would bring to and get out of this unique experience and community. Expressing your motivation for applying for the program, which is best done through a thoughtful and honest essay and interview, is key. There is no golden ticket because this varies from student to student, but what I can say is that they are not looking for a cookie cutter mold. Be yourself and spend your last year of high school doing things that make you happy, then talk about all of that–that’s the best advice I can give!

Thank you very much @GSTourGuides for your sane advise. It is wonderful to hear that the program looks for a goood fit rather than focus on stats which may not necessarily reflect one’s personality or interests.

Hi, I’m a prospective applicant next year. I’m an international student from China, and when applying I’m not sure the requirements for this program. Could you guys who are accepted share your standardized test scores and some background?

My current SAT is 1490, and my composite SAT is 1510.
My TOEFL is 113.
I got four AP scores which are all 5s
My unweighted GPA is 4.1 out of 4.33.

Do you think I stand a chance of being accepted? Or any suggestions that could help me with this coming application? Btw, I am part of the LGBT community, does it affect my application when I write this in my application?

Another issue that i am concerning is that whether I could apply simultaneously to Berkeley&Sciencepo and Columbia&Sciencepo. Can i apply to two Dual BA programs? @GSTourGuides

@Justinzp I was recently accepted by Columbia and Sciences Po and I could offer you some insight into my own application. PM me if interested

@Justinzp you can apply to both. Personnally
I applied to three dual ba

Hi everyone,

@psekhon55 Glad that was helpful! Please let us know if you have any other questions heading into the upcoming application cycle.

@Justinzp I would encourage you to look at my post two above yours. While I understand your concern with stats, this program is extremely holistic in its evaluation and comparing your numbers to others students’ grades and scores will not give you a good idea of where you stand as an applicant. Having good grades is definitely important, but don’t worry too much about any single statistic because there are no “cut-offs.” What will be equally or more important is how you express your reasons for applying to this unique international program. Hope that helps!

To your second question, I believe you can apply to both! I will confirm with the admissions office and post again if I am told otherwise, but as far as I understand, it is fine. They are completely independent processes and the applications are not on the same website.

Please continue to post your questions and we will do our best to get back to them all!

@Srudents2017 @GSTourGuides Thank you so much!

i am also a prospective applicant for next year. how did you choose your sciences po campus? I’m stuck between Reims or Menton

Hi @scipo88!

The factors I would consider would be first and most importantly, the subject matter of the campus (i.e. the region of focus) because most academics and many extracurriculars, from dance to research, will center around this region. As you are probably aware, Menton is the Middle Eastern/Mediterranean studies campus, Le Havre is Asian studies, and Reims has two programs–Europe-America and Europe-Africa. To get an idea of classes, events, and activities offered at each campus, you can check out their individual websites–

Reims: http://www.sciencespo.fr/college/en/campus/reims
Menton: http://www.sciencespo.fr/college/en/campus/menton
Le Havre: http://www.sciencespo.fr/college/en/campus/le-havre

(Sometimes College Confidential blocks links, so if those links did not show up, go to www dot sciencespo dot fr / college / en / campus)

As secondary factors and more personal preferences, you should consider things like the size of the campus (Reims is a bit larger, closer to a small liberal arts school in the US) and Menton and Le Havre are quite small (closer to a small-to mid-sized high school), as well as the geographic location (is being close to Paris important to you? Do you want to live in the South or the North? Do you like small villages or medium sized cities?)

Personally, I chose my campus because I have family connections to the region but did not know much about it, so I wanted to learn more and study the language. But that’s just one student’s story! Everyone has different reasons. Some are personal, others academic or professional, and others yet are totally unique–just be sure that you can explain your reasoning for being drawn to a certain campus.

Hope that is helpful! Please continue to reach out with questions.