<p>Also, as I mentioned before, the fact that Columbia has no business major doesn't hurt students that are interested in business at all. They simply use their four years at Columbia to pursue another field of study before going to a graduate business school.</p>
<p>They're two very different schools. I've lived in Manhattan all my life and would never stay for university because I desire a bit of a change for a few years since I'm fairly confident I'll be living in NYC after college. On the other hand, my friend who has spent the last ' years in a Swiss boarding school is biting at the bit to go to NYU. Columbia offers more of the 'traditional' college experience while some may feel that NYU throws you to the wolves (I guess it is shocking coming from flyover states ;)). The only thing that the two schools truly have in common is that after a semester all the students suddenly think theyre New Yorkers. <em>Groans</em> ;)</p>
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<p>Yeah but wouldn't it be nice if there was an undergraduate business program? I mean not everyone wants to go into engineering, physics, math, chemistry, biology, literature, humanities, etc.. Many are interested in things like finance, marketing, and other business courses from the beginning. Stern offers many of these topics for undergraduate concentrations.</p>
<p>So the only the mistake I've seemed to have committed here was quoting that Stern had a better undergrad. business program than Columbia when I should have said "Stern obviously has a more popular undergrad. business program considering Columbia doesn't even have one".</p>
<p>College Confidential doesnt even regard/ place NYU with the top CC universities ... (which by the way are CIT,Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Georgetown, JHU, MIT, Northwestern, Rice, Stanford UCLA, UC-Berkeley, UMICH,UCHICAGO,UVA, UNC, WASHU and Vanderbilt) </p>
<p>NYU just doesnt cut it...<br>
no offense</p>
<p>oh well if college confidential doesn't say its good...</p>
<p>It's interesting how college confidential regards UNC, Vanderbilt, and UVA as top schools but not NYU when the latter is clearly better than the former. Ask anyone and they'll tell you NYU is much better and much more popular than either UVA, UNC or Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>please.dont.start.a.flame.war.
im begging :)</p>
<p>laloopie, people who go to state schools do have self worth... As long as the school is not advertised on TV, then it should be a decent university. Better yet, as long as it is ranked in the top 50 or a 100 it should be okay. The school is what the individual makes of it; grads from Harvard make about the same as UW grads. According to my doctor, he told me go to the University of Washington for the first year or two and then transfer if I feel the need to attend a more well known school (UW is considered the most prestigious in my state). However he does not think it is necesary for a premed to do that because as long as my grades are good I will get a respectable residency and thats all that matters in the world of medicine. Other doctors do not care where their peers went to school, they care about where they got their training. Also my school is ranked number 1 in the US for primary care medicine and nursing, plus I believe most of the other medical programs are ranked in the top ten. </p>
<p>The difference between NYU and Columbia for the most part must be living conditions. What do you prefer? The Villiage or Harlem? I personally want to attend Columbia because of its location and the traditional academic environment; I need a break from Washington state. If I were to go by prestige later on, I will definitely pick UW medical over Columbia's medical school.</p>
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<p>If you want prestige, picking UW med over Columbia med would be foolish.</p>
<p>Primary care rankings are worthless if you're interested in prestige. Think about it, John hopkins is the finest medical school in the country and the most reputable; yet it isn't even ranked under the top 15 under "primary care" rankings. </p>
<p>The category of "research" rankings is more important and applicable to prospective medical school students. The top research medical schools are the best and the most popular because these school teach and educate their students the best. That's where all the prestige is. Sure, UW is a good med school but Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Columbia med schools are much more prestigious and reputable than UW.</p>
<p>Ask a doctor in Cali or New York or Texas or even Alaska if he's heard of UW med school or Columbia med school. Everyone will have heard of Columbia but the guy in Cali is probably going to be the only one who's heard of UW.</p>
<p>UW is still a great school however, and I think that you can be just as successful graduating from UW than if you were to graduate from Columbia.</p>
<p>I'm sure that most doctors have heard of UW, lol</p>
<p>USNWR ranks UW first for medicine-primary care.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure UW is somewhere around 6 for medical research, maybe I will look into it later. Stanford, Harvard, and one of the UC's I think are the leaders in medical research, but again I will need to look it up online which I am too lazy to do right now.</p>
<p>I'm just trying to say that the research rankings are more of use to you if your interested in prestige than the primary care rankings. I just find the primary care rankings odd because they don't list the top schools in medicine and instead list schools like Texas or Colorado above Harvard and John Hopkins.</p>
<p>1) It DOESNT matter if Columbia has a business program. The banks don't care. They recruit from Columbia because Columbia is impressive and that is that. You don't need a business major at all.</p>
<p>2) It is true Doctors from Harvard med make the same as UW. In fact they make the same as doctors from Wright State too. The difference is Harvard docs get the PRESTIGIOUS academic positions - positions outside the realm of people outside the top 20 or so schools. In fact these people make less initially, but are widely considered the forefront of their field. Often they go to the private sector and make millions. Your neighborhood doctor isnt likely to have gone to a top 10 school. That is a fact.</p>
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<p>What exactly are you trying to prove by saying this? It's common knowledge that one doesn't have to be a business major to do i-banking. Many people know that i-banks recruit math, chemistry, physics, engineering, and even biology majors. Your not telling us anything remarkable by your statements. Most of us already know this.</p>
<p>Also, by your above comment, you act like the sole and main purpose of getting an undergraduate degree in business is solely for the purpose of I-banking.</p>
<p>My cousin is an excellent example even though she doesn't go NYU. She does however, go to NYU's equivalent - Cornell. She's decent at pure sciences but she loves business much more. It was her dream to go into business and she relished the subject. At Cornell, she double majored in applied econ. & management / communications. Her years at Cornell were the best times of her life. She said that she would have never given that up to major in something like science. There are many people like her and when faced with Columbia which doesn't even have an undergraduate program, I think they'd prefer NYU over Columbia easily.</p>
<p>What if someone (like my cousin) is just interested in business and has a passion for something like finance, marketing, AE & M, other business topics? Theyre going to be in undergrad. for up to 4-5 years. There are many people like this people who are driven to study undergraduate business concentrations. They want to do this because its fun; not solely for the purpose of working at an I-bank for the rest of their lives. </p>
<p>NYU is more flexible because it provides them this opportunity while Columbia doesnt.</p>
<p>I just wish you future Columbia students would show some more respect for NYU because the only thing that's "much" greater between the two schools is your ego. No one here has talked trash about Columbia from NYU's side. Extend them the same courtesy and respect them.</p>
<p>Columbia and NYU shouldn't even juxtaposed with one another; frankly, there's no competition. Columbia University, by all means is far greater in almost every element over NYU. There has to be a certain degree of beffudlement; the two schools may be in the same ball park physically (that is in Manhattan), but academically there's simply no competition.</p>
<p>Amen!!! Praise The Lord!!</p>
<p>I said something then changed my mind by editing...</p>
<p>"Columbia and NYU shouldn't even juxtaposed with one another; frankly, there's no competition. Columbia University, by all means is far greater in almost every element over NYU. There has to be a certain degree of beffudlement; the two schools may be in the same ball park physically (that is in Manhattan), but academically there's simply no competition."</p>
<p>Yes, except that Stern has higher incoming gpa and students, Columbia clearly is better. I take it you are what, 14 years old?</p>
<p>Thank you quakerman.</p>
<p>IvyLeagueORbust...,</p>
<p>What kind of a screenname is that? Your basically implying by using a screenname like "ivyleagueorbust" that for you, it's either ivy league or no future. That really is quite pathetic. Furthermore, you just ignored my entire post about how Columbia doesn't even have an undergraduate program in business unlike NYU and waltzed your way into talking trash about NYU.</p>
<p>Are you 14? Or are you 12?</p>