Columbia with Barnard sororities

<p>this may be a dumb question but guys can cross-register to barnard?</p>

<p>^they can, they can even live in certain barnard housing just as easily as columbia women can.</p>

<p>Yes, guys are welcome in Barnard classes! There are even a couple of majors that are available to Columbia students but housed at Barnard -- for example, if you decided to major in architecture your courses would be at Barnard (see Columbia</a> College Bulletin )</p>

<p>oh no you guys are totally right. because of the curve and what not.</p>

<p>but i was told by barnard's dean that this was the first year (ever) that cross registration had been equal... i wonder if they'll put up the statistic.</p>

<p>Well, cross registration might be equal this year, but as some people pointed out to me previously, proportionally, more Barnard students are taking Columbia classes. I don't think this means that Barnard classes are inferior in any way to Columbia's, just that there is probably more classes offered in general on the Columbia side.</p>

<p>Oftentimes for courses where you take something is just a matter of chance. I remember Accelerated Elementary German was offered at Columbia and Accelerated Intermediate German at Barnard. I think in a lot of departments, cooperation just goes back and forth across the street.</p>

<p>You also have to keep in mind that in some cases classes that are required for Barnard students are taught at Columbia --for example, I believe that most of the introductory foreign language classes are on the Columbia campus, generally in small sections taught by TA's -- but that probably accounts for a significant amount of cross registration.</p>

<p>Actually I think its a little misleading to refer to it as "cross registration" given the way the courses are all intermixed together for class listings. I mean, when my d. is looking up classes, especially to fulfill the 9-ways-of-knowing requirements, she really doesn't care where it is -- she is going to select whatever looks the most interesting and fits in her schedule. And very often you will see the same "W" or "V" course offered on one campus one semester, the other the next -- when the courses are labeled "interfaculty" they could be anywhere.</p>

<p>That's another Barnard/Columbia difference that impacts on the registration. Obviously Columbia students need to take the Core courses at Columbia; whereas Barnard has this rather complex array of distribution requirements along with lists of classes that meet them at both colleges. So actually, I think it is somewhat surprising that there isn't a greater imbalance in favor of Columbia -- you have more classes overall, and Barnard students are more likely to need those classes to meet their own graduation requirements. (Believe me, if my daughter is taking statistics next semester at Columbia, it is not out of love of the subject or any desire to impress anyone with her "Ivy League" math course -- but she's got to take a math class to meet Barnard's requirements, and Columbia seems to be the place to go for the math that is more appropriate to her level - Barnard's very small math department doesn't seem to be offering anything lower than Calculus II for fall semester).</p>

<p>Yes, there are Barnard girls in Columbia sororities, just like there are Barnard girls on Columbia teams and Barnard girls in Columbia clubs. I'm in a fraternity and so I have lots of friends in sororities and as far as I can tell there isn't any hostility about Barnard/Columbia in the sororities, although there is a limit to the number of Barnard girls who are allowed to live in the sorority house, I believe.</p>

<p>With regard to the point about cross-registration's being very mixed, I would say that that's true... but I'd also qualify it by saying that it's very easy to figure out whether a class is "Barnard" or "Columbia" (they're broken down by each school's department on the directory, except in cases when a department is exclusive to either Columbia or Barnard). Also worth noting is the fact that, in some disciplines, there are equivalent courses offered by both schools in the same semester (a bio. course, or an American lit. course), so students can choose which to take. In one sense, that just means that there are more options (although they're sometimes restricted--Columbia American Studies majors have to take Columbia's intro, whereas Barnard American Studies majors take a different intro sequence), but it also shows how equivalent departments at Columbia and Barnard act independently of each other, even though they're affiliated and work together a lot of the time. The synergy between the two schools is complementary in some ways and redundant in others, as would be the case with any affiliation, I imagine.</p>

<p>does barnard really offer that many clubs to begin with? probably the best club i've been involved with is through barnard (wbar) and i'm in columbia gs, though staff is a decent barnard/columbia mix. i think it also gets columbia student life funding.</p>

<p>the only reason to my knowledge that the freeform college radio station exists at barnard as opposed to columbia is because columbia has wkcr. well, that and barnard doesn't seem to take things all that seriously when it comes to campus media. [see: barnard bulletin]</p>