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<p>Well if you get full scholarship or someone paid for your education, would it be better to go to a 4 year university? Plus, it's not that 4 years universities are taught by grad students. They are taught by great professors. The grad students are only for smaller discussions. Well, community colleges don't require phD degree to teach. Some teachers there had B.S or B.A degree. Some grad student already hold a master degree and are working on phD, isn't that still better? Plus, for a 2 year CC, after you're done, would you be able to go to a 4 year and catch up to speed?</p>
<p>When I took a few gen ed classes at a university I never saw the professor only when we were taking tests. So I don't know what you mean they are only their for small discussions.</p>
<p>Usually the professors with the B.A degrees are the ones teaching classes like dental tech. The ones teaching freshman english and all those other gen ed classes have masters.</p>
<p>I don't get what you mean "catch up to speed". Usually everyone starts their major in their junior year. So how could one be behind?</p>
<p>Yea if someone gets a full-ride then they should go ahead but they are not going to get the small classes and personable feel unless they are honors.</p>
<p>Personally I think everyone should graduate H.S with a 2 year degree its the most logical thing to do. If I only I could go back in time.</p>
<p>Generally, at every 4 year university, every general ed courses has a lecture format and a discussion format. You go to lecture (big class) to listen to the professor. Then you have small class (15-20) people for smaller discussion (the graduate student teaches). You can ask anyone here to clarify that. </p>
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<p>not all lower level classes at universities are as big as you say. For instance my freshman english course has 24 people and a general ed course (psychology) has fewer than 50. </p>
<p>AT universities, you declare major when you enter. It may take 1 or 2 semesters for some people to be admitted to the major. But generally, everyone starts taking their major related courses freshman, sophomoroe year already. They don't start to get into their major 3rd, 4th year. So coming from a CC obviously you're being in a disadvantage. Plus courses at CC are generally easier than lower level courses at 4 year universities (agree?) when you transfer after 2 years, you start taking university upper level courses (which everyone including those who were there since freshman year will find way harder). How are you gonna adjust? Isn't it easier to adjust when you take lower level courses entering freshman year? That I believe is one reason why on average transfer have lower gpa. (some people says 1.0 gpa lower but not at my school).</p>
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<p>H.S = high school? what you mean graduate HS with a 2 year degree?
Why do you think people spend lots of money to prepare their kids and all to top schools (4 years universities) like the ivies, stanford, MIt and others... if CC is the best choice?</p>
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H.S = high school? what you mean graduate HS with a 2 year degree?
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<p>In some states (Washington, Hawaii, and Idaho, for example, though I'm positive you can do this in other states, too...) you can take classes for both high school AND college credit at your local community college or a university that offers the program (I know that Eastern Washington University and Gonzaga University do this in my area, for instance.). If you take a full load for two years, you can graduate from high school and with your 2 year degree from your college. I'm only doing this my senior year, so I'll only graduate with about 36 college credits, but it's a nice start.</p>
<p>At my school, I don't know anyone that started their major their junior year. If you're going to write an honors thesis you have to declare it your junior year. Good luck figuring out a thesis when you've taken half the courses for the major. Personally, I started my major freshmen year (1 course) and I'm currently taking 3 within the major and will take 2-3 more next semester. So theoretically i'll be 6-7 credits ahead of any transfer from a community college. That gives me a big advantage when establishing relationships with professors within the department and working with them on any kind of senior/honors project for the major. I still won't have finished my Gen Eds by my junior year but it won't be a disadvantage, I'm not going to go deep into the fields of the gen eds so why should I get them all out of the way when I can be taking core major classes which give me more variety (by fulfilling prerequisites) to take in my junior and senior years when transfer students will be only starting their major.</p>
<p>I really don't understand how anyone could view a CC over a Uni. Think about who goes to CCs. If a person is smart, driven, and financially able, why would he/she ever go to a CC? That isn't to say that you won't be successful if you go to a CC, I think the individual is far more important than the education when it comes to success, but you can't use anecdotal examples like "my uncle went to CC and now he's successful" as evidence to say that CCs are the better choice. You may have successful people at CCs, but you are also going to have lots of people who are there because they can't get into a better school or are going back to school later in life. </p>
<p>You can easily be just as successful if you go to a CC, but again, why would you? You miss out on the higher quality student body and the opportunities of the university. Sure, a CC might have internship and study abroad programs, but are these going to be as good as the university programs? In rare cases, maybe, but on average, no. Most reputable universities will have ties to other universities around the world where you can go as an exchange student and pay the same amount of tuition as if you were at your home university. While that may suck for people paying 40,000 a year at their home university, if you're going to a public college on a scholarship, it's a heck of a deal.</p>
<p>People use community colleges to transfer to top universities? Do you have any idea what the transfer acceptance rate is at top universities? Berkeley is a state university and an exception, but I think it's very foolish to expect to get into a top university by going to a community college instead of just choosing a different university.</p>
<p>Go to a CC if you have to, but if you don't have to, don't go to one.</p>
<p>I'm keep this pretty short. I started at a CC, and made the jump to UCLA and now I'm going to Law School. So a CC is not the end of the world. However I've got to say that if you have the chance, go stright to the 4 year. I didn't do good in High School and am greatful that I got a second chance, but I never enjoyed bein at the CC.</p>
<p>Concerning universities and class sizes, I'm a freshman at the largest university in the country and 4/6 of my classes have under 30 students. The other two are large lectures but the professors both have PhDs and the only time I have a teaching assistant is once a week for a lab.</p>
<p>I am in an honors program though, so I would definitely recommend getting into one if you go to a public university. My university does cap all intro english and math classes at a very small size (19-25 I believe) though.</p>
<p>Speaking of opportunities, I've already been able to talk to a CEO at a luncheon and have an informational meeting with Deloitte next week, and that's not counting all of the clubs/organizations I've been in contact with and the many more I have the ability to join.</p>