Competing for Yale at my school

<p>I'm fairly certain 2 kids from my school are applying to Yale Single-Choice Early Action. My school isn't a feeder so Yale will only accept one kid from my school, if that. </p>

<p>1) a black female with a legacy at Yale. She isn't really qualified for Yale (around 1700-1800 SAT, average GPA), but she has a legacy and she's an URM.</p>

<p>2) a white male with high stats (strong GPA but not valedictorian or salutatorian, 2150 SAT, fairly high SAT IIs), and he does a lot of community service and extracurriculars like that.</p>

<p>3) Now I'm thinking of applying to Yale early as well. I'm not sure if I want to yet. I have much higher SAT and SAT II scores than (2) and I'm going to be the salutatorian. I have a lot of community service and ECs as well, but I don't think as much as (2). I'm also asian. </p>

<p>Who do you think would have the best chance of getting in?</p>

<p>Yale doesn’t establish quotas for certain high schools. If all three of you are qualified, all three will receive acceptance.</p>

<p>You’d have the best shot. 1 won’t get in unless 1 has a very generous legacy donor and 2 won’t get in unless he has great EC’s/Community Service.</p>

<p>Regardless, try to avoid the hyper-competitive attitude.</p>

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<p>This is exactly correct. It’s also true that there will be another dozen or two criteria which you haven’t named, many of which you’ll not even know about. You’d have to read their apps and recs and everything else to get the big picture, and you’re not going to get that information. Worry about yourself is my advice. </p>

<p>And by the way, the notion of ‘feeder schools’ is two generations out of date.</p>

<p>Six members of my D’s class (of 212) will enroll as freshmen at Yale this fall. So no, I don’t think there is a limit.</p>

<p>While you may feel that the idea of feeder schools is out of date, based on what I read on CC and my own personal experience, there are prep schools and private schools that get a disproportionate amount of students admitted to Ivies. Without the colleges releasing the data on this (and they never will), it is just a matter of opinion. My opinion is clearly stated above.</p>

<p>Marsden, it would seem your “notion” of feeder schools is not based in fact.</p>

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<p>I’m willing to accept that certain schools start with extraordinary students and provide them with the best college chances that money can buy, and that makes them “feeders.” But this small paragraph really got me:</p>

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<p>So if your school’s previous admits didn’t do well enough to suit Gettysburg, you suffer the consequences? Is that a common admissions mindset?</p>

<p>“Matriculation statistics” probably refers to yield. So if your school’s previous students who were admitted didn’t matriculate in acceptable numbers, it may affect your chances of admission. IOW, the so-called Tufts syndrome. At some such schools, a student who really wants to go might overcome this by showing a lot of genuine love.</p>

<p>Schools that aren’t so-called feeder schools are not limited to one acceptance. That said, I doubt that student #1 will get accepted. Being a female URM and legacy will not make up for her stats.</p>

<p>@Marsden – All the prep-school moms and dads can deny it all they want, but there is no doubt that the feeder schools get preferential treatment at Ivies and Ivies+. It is just statistically improbable, if not impossible, for the kids from those schools to get admitted at the rates they do. It does not matter what the admissions counselors say. Quite honestly, the way they talk in the article makes them sound like our silly politicians.</p>

<p>Thanks to Erin’s Dad for finding that great article.</p>

<p>JMO, but I do think the certain prep schools do get an edge for ivy/elite admits. I think it’s because these schools are need blind/meet full need and they’d like to be rather certain of admitting a certain number of full or near full payers.</p>

<p>You never know. My daughter’s public HS class of 2012 with about 475 students has 3 going to Yale this year (and 2 others from town who went to a private HS) and previous to this year only 1 had been accepted over the past 5 years (according to Naviance). One of the Yale accepts got in after being deferred SCEA - I had even heard that our school was on some kind of Yale “black list” and nobody would ever get in! So again you just don’t know - anything can happen.</p>

<p>Thanks, annasdad, for the decoding. Protecting yield is a whole different thing than what I read into it.</p>

<p>Yeesh! Of COURSE some high schools will be more successful getting their graduates into top colleges. How could it be otherwise? Guess what, they tend to have better students, higher academic standards, and yes, most are well-funded to boot. This has no bearing whatever on your chances if you graduate from another school. </p>

<p>As the admissions director explained in the cite: “We do not admit schools…We admit students.”</p>