Comprehensive Ivy League v. non-Ivy League Thread Part 3

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how pretentious are those who go an Ivy League school?

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<p>Most of the graduates of Ivy League colleges whom I know are not pretentious, but of course this is an anecdote, not a statistic.</p>

<p>Is cornell the most looked down upon because of the stigma of it being the worst ivy league school?</p>

<p>Cornell is a first rate school. Anyone who looks down on it is just ridiculous. </p>

<p>It may not be as super-selective as Harvard, but it's still a top school (and amazing in the sciences, engineering, architecture, hotel management, etc.).</p>

<p>yeah cornell is still legit, still in the top percent of schools. It's not looked down upon (unless you are a snobby ass/are misinformed)</p>

<p>Cornell has the best Ivy engineering program, the best architecture school in the country, and perhaps one of the best ILR schools in the country as well. How do people look down at this?</p>

<p>dont forget about statler hotel school too!</p>

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cornell is still legit

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<p>There's something very misleading about that statement. Among the private elites, Cornell is generally perceived as being easier to get into because it's a very large school in comparison to its peers and less desirable to today's generation that prefers an urban and very "happening" learning environment. But Cornell has always been an excellent school with a very solid tradition and international recognition, and regardless of what some pre-mature high schoolers say on this board, Cornell's reputation is still exceptional in the real world.</p>

<p>while Cornell is statistically the easiest ivy league to get into (with the exception of special programs/specific majors), it is by no means looked down upon. Cornell is considered one of the hardest schools as far as curriculum, and is famous for grade deflation. An undergraduate degree from here is not a piece of cake.</p>

<p>It may have a high (compared to peer schools) acceptance rate, but it's a superb school. After all, selectivity =/= quality of students matriculating, and eventually going out into the world.</p>

<p>No one should look down on any selective school.</p>

<p>Would you be looked down upon if you had the "worst" Mercedes? The "worst" house in Beverly Hills? Cornell is a major nameplate school, as well as an excellent one.</p>

<p>Don't confuse the Ivies' consistent teasing with each other for anything substantive. Cornell students thank their lucky stars that they don't go to Harvard; Harvard students say Yale is competitive; Yale students say Princeton is snobby; Princeton students say Dartmouth kids drink too much; Dartmouth students say Columbia is humorless; Columbia students say Penn kids are i-banking drones; Penn students say Brown is an academic joke; Brown students say that Cornell is a suicide school. It's all part of the game.</p>

<p>dont forget their hotel management. its easiest to get into because they accept a lot more people. the academics is just as tough as any school</p>

<p>Only here on CC will you see people look down on Cornell. Sure, there are many responses on here who say that it isn't looked down on, but that's how it always is with threads like this: people say things that, in reality, are very true, but you'll still encounter idiots on this site who think otherwise. The same is true for most of the top schools (how many threads I've read in which people praise Berkeley, for example, and yet it's bashed quite often on CC; same for Penn, Caltech, Duke, Northwestern, WUStL, and more).</p>

<p>Cornell is very highly regarded. It is not regarded as the "worst Ivy League". There is not such thing. Harvard, Princeton and Yale are universally acknowledged to be the best. The other five (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth and Penn) are all equally and very highly regarded.</p>

<p>this is a ridiculous thread, everyone know the school most looked down upon in the top 20 is notre dame >=)</p>

<p>Which is undue, because ND outperforms many of the other schools in the 12-20 range but for peer assessment score</p>

<p>I agree bpayne, which is why I prefer grouping universities into groups of equally good universities rather than ranking them. For example, I would place Notre Dame with the following schools which I feel are of equal quality:</p>

<p>Emory University
Georgetown University
Rice University
University of California-Los Angeles
University of Virginia
Vanderbilt University
Washington University</p>

<p>Those are all excellent universities, though not quite as good as say Cornell or Northwestern or Penn.</p>

<p>i would add USC to that list</p>

<p>As a Penn student, I love Cornell-bashing.</p>

<p>I also love Harvard-bashing, Princeton-bashing, Columbia-bashing, Dartmouth-bashing, Yale-bashing, and Brown-bashing.</p>

<p>It really is all part of the game, and except for a few excessively insecure people (such as the Columbia kids who must have written this: Ivy</a> League - WikiCU ), it's all meant in good fun. I have nothing but the highest respect for graduates of Cornell and the rest of the Ivy League--until their own personal qualities (or lack thereof) give me reason to feel otherwise.</p>

<p>^^ that web page is actually pretty funny</p>

<p>Although USC is excellent, I would personally place it the next group, along with schools like NYU, Tufts and UNC.</p>