<p>I never post in this thread- but the title caught my eye. There is to a similar thread in the grad school area which I posted in a while back – someone was interested in google, fb, microsoft jobs.</p>
<p>I’m a CS freshman at Carnegie.</p>
<p>I had offers to interview at Intel, CIA, ebay, amazon. I didn’t get an offer at FB, google or Microsoft. My GPA is only a 3.3. My 4.0 friends had their pick of all three and enjoyed the treatment they had in some nice hotels with expensive dinners.</p>
<p>I took an offer very early in the process–so I didn’t interview or respond to the many emails I received. the range of offers of my cs friends at CMU is as low as $ 6000 (feds) for 10 weeks and those with the high gpa are going to FB for $20k plus of course the free gourmet food and the free housing. One friend of a friend got an xbox from microsoft-- he is heading to google but got to keep it. Another friend who did lots of programming before he even arrived is going to some hot aps dev company in palo alto and earning 25k - higher than even the juniors are pulling in. This seems rarely odd to all of us who know the guy- he’s not a genious either.</p>
<p>Everyone I know has a summer job lined up for the summer who is a CS or ECE major at Carnegie. Seniors in a frat I hang with also have their job offers for the fall.
Some people are going to REUs-- they are more interested in long term graduate school resume building - b/c the pay sucks.</p>
<p>Every major company has a college website-- I spammed several before our career fair and I think that’s why I got lots of offers to interview. I was able to be picky. Hit the websites-- I hear people are still getting calls for unfilled jobs. Some have strict info about gpas - clearly a deal breaker in lots of places.</p>
<p>There’s a govt website too-- that got me interested in the CIA. But the process was so long, I declined mid way through b/c all the other offers were coming through. Might have been exciting work- but they were too slow.</p>
<p>^^I don’t know if this is the norm for CS major, though, even being a pretty hot employer desired major. But CMU is supposedly the top CS school desired by recruiters, so that may be the reason for all the great offers. I wonder if these amazing offers are prevalent at many other schools.</p>
<p>^^ There are good internship offers, including the names mentioned above, that go to UCLA and UCSD as well and I’m sure plenty of other schools with highly ranked CS programs.</p>
<p>^^Yes, I’d imagine there are, especially for the highly ranked CS schools. It is amazing to me, that they are for freshmen also, and that it is for everyone, not just the superstars. Leading me to wonder, is it because it is such an in-demand major, or is it because these are particularly desireable schools for their major?</p>
<p>I don’t think it is common for freshman to receive $20K or more even at DD college. There are few exceptionally smart people who did get it during freshman year but it was not common. Most of them got between $1500 to $3000 per month.</p>
<p>Sophomore year is different at DD college with a much better pay and the range was from $2000 to $6000 per month.</p>
<p>But one thing is sure that it is quite common to get a well paid internship at DD college even after freshman year.</p>
<p>I’m not sure if we can believe CMUGUY2014 post #21 as this is what he posted in the other thread.</p>
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<p>MIT is still the top CS undergraduate program along with EE/ECE as well as overall undergraduate engineering.</p>
<p>Well, I suppose it all depends upon the company. I didn’t think too many companies hire freshmen, but there certainly are some out there. I am sure the women are highly recruited, because there are generally not too many in CS, and no doubt the companies want to get their hands on them before anyone else does.</p>
<p>That kind of did seem too good to be true…nevertheless, it does sound like a great career field, going strong even in a down economy.</p>
<p>Even the company I worked for hire interns that are either junior (summer after) or senior undergraduate or post graduate students. Also the company doesn’t pay to the tune of $6000/month. I was also surprised by the amount and it doesn’t seem to be common.</p>
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<p>I never thought companies bothered about that. I’ve never come across any hiring where a women engineer was hired because of her gender.</p>
<p>My son interned at a smaller company in S.F. last summer. There was only one student who was not a rising senior; the exception was a rising junior from CMU-SCS. The other interns were from a wide range of programs, including MIT, flagships state Unis and LACs. </p>
<p>Since son had research positions on campus after freshman and sophomore years, he was not even looking for internships elsewhere. In his experience, the best way to get paid research work after freshman and sophomore year was to already be doing research work for faculty members during the school year. Of course, that doesn’t get your foot in the door of a post-graduate job in quite the same way as a private sector internship, but the on-campus experience resulted in some published work and very good LORs, leading to an internship before senior year that did result in a good job offer.</p>
<p>In general, I would say CS is a relatively good field for finding internships/summer work.</p>
<p>“I never thought companies bothered about that. I’ve never come across any hiring where a women engineer was hired because of her gender.”</p>
<p>I do not think that women are hired because of their gender. But I think in certain occupations that have a low percentage of women, it can definitely be an advantage if the woman is qualified.It is sometimes hard for me to admit, as I work in an occupation that is about 98% male dominated, but if a qualified woman applies, she will at least get the interview before a similarly skilled man will. I don’t think these companies necessarily lower their standards for diversity, but a qualified woman will be hired quickly.</p>
<p>At the top schools, that certainly is the norm. Companies like MS, Facebook, Apple, Google, Amazon, and anyone of comparable quality offer compensation of roughly $20k for interns. And while those may be the cream of the crop, students at these top schools are very popular with these companies. Fewer freshmen are qualified (though some do get these jobs), but sophomores and juniors often get these positions. For kicks, here’s a minimum (based on self-reporting, in which not everyone participated) count of internships for students at Brown this summer, out of the roughly 70-80 sophomores and juniors in the department:</p>
<p>1 Adobe Intern
1 Amazon Intern
2 Apple Interns
2 Cloudera Interns
1 Delphix Intern
1 Dijit Intern
1 Dropbox Intern
4 Facebook Interns
1 Flipboard Intern
14 Google Interns
1 Intel Intern
12 Microsoft Interns
1 Mozilla Intern
5 TripAdvisor Interns
About 10-15 others at small CS/Finance Companies, and one who rejected offers to teach over the summer.</p>
<p>I think the point is…at least at these schools, it’s a ridiculous percent of the department that ends up with these lucrative ($6k + /month) summer internships, and those who don’t still end up with very good summer jobs.</p>
POIH:
CMUGUY wasn’t referring to the USNWR ranking - he said CMU was was the top one desired by recruiters. These two aren’t the same thing. I don’t know if he’s right or not - I’m just pointing out the difference. Regardless, they’re both obviously good schools that provide great opportunities for their students as do other schools as pointed out by Uroogla, me, and others. The CS field provides some pretty good opportunities right now.</p>
<p>Uroogla: Why did you post the following while answering fresh Brown Students when 50% of the students in the CS department get $20K summer internship after sophomore year? I’ll assume getting a job should not be an issue for those getting $20K over the summer after sophomore year.
<p>ucsd<em>ucla</em>dad: Certainly CMU SCS is a good school, I was just being politically correct.</p>
<p>Yes, I do agree that for a hard working and intelligent CS student, from any good CS program, getting a summer internship should not be too difficult.</p>
<p>DS forwarded me an email sent to him from the small company that shall remain nameless where’s he’s interning, which listed the 25 students selected for summer. MIT, Cornell, Berkeley, and Stanford accounted for about half. His school (CMU) and a couple of others also had more than one intern selected, and the remaining were a few schools with one student from each. Compensation was seven grand/mo including housing assist or six grand if you shared a furnished apt they provided - high end bike and T-shirt provided too, but no mention of free healthy food or haircuts
What I’m saying is if this is one of the typical companies seeking CS interns with good pay, they don’t just go to the top couple of schools, but look at the whole range of schools with good CS reputations and hire a few from each. DS is aware of some seniors who were offered six figure salaries at the end of the internship if they joined upon graduation, so this is as much a recruitment system as it is to get work done. </p>
<p>What we’ve also noticed is that some employers (or perhaps department heads) have strong relationships with certain schools which trump ratings and all other such factors; eg. I know an executive from a very well known west coast firm whose top two choices are UIUC and Waterloo and students from there had a decided edge both in interning and jobs because he finds them a much better fit than, say MIT, Berkeley, or CMU.</p>
<p>I know for OP, it’s a big late in the game for this summer, but if the student can find out where his upper-classmen were placed last year, he may be able to identify some companies which fancy his program, and would be willing to slot him in. </p>
<p>One other thought - work study programs; after DS went to job fairs (either at the end of his freshman or in the soph year, I don’t remember), he started getting phone interviews to work during the regular school year for up to 6 months (again very well known companies), not at all as an intern, but for specific jobs that they needed temporary help (eg. software testing was one assignment I remember at about $22/hr). I discouraged him from doing so because I didn’t think he would have an experience similar to what he would have in an internship with many other students like him.</p>
<p>Good luck OP - it’s definitely worth seeking out opportunites by checking with the placement office, profs, and other senior students. The rewards are great.</p>
<p>ParentOfIvyHope: My understanding of the situation at Brown is that for personal reasons, it is not always possible for a student to take an internship over the summer. As many have warned me, students without industry experience, particularly those who also lack significant programming in research, have much more trouble getting jobs out of college. For these people, as well as some of those not getting the lucrative internships (based on those numbers I was able to get, it’s about half of the department who gets them), getting a masters may be a necessity. Prospects are good, but they’re far from guaranteed (and for full time positions, the ease with which they come still seems to vary from year to year.) The interviewing process for those is <em>much</em> more rigorous than for internships.</p>
<p>Actually, I mentioned the article I read about the top CS schools desired by recruiters (I think that was a WSJ piece), but you know how those surveys go.</p>
<p>“As many have warned me, students without industry experience, particularly those who also lack significant programming in research, have much more trouble getting jobs out of college. For these people, as well as some of those not getting the lucrative internships (based on those numbers I was able to get, it’s about half of the department who gets them), getting a masters may be a necessity. Prospects are good, but they’re far from guaranteed (and for full time positions, the ease with which they come still seems to vary from year to year.) The interviewing process for those is <em>much</em> more rigorous than for internships.”</p>
<p>That sounds dead on correct, from everything I’ve heard. To get back to the original point, though, it seems rather late to be starting the internship process (though certainly worth pursuing through the department), so connections could be one of the top ways to get an internship at this stage.</p>
<p>Do the kids really do work worth $7000 a month or are these internships a way to lock in future employees? I worked at a law firm where we had second year law students as summer interns. Those internships were recruitment vehicles.</p>
<p>It does happen BD.
DS took a position as a rising sr. (2005) when the economy was just beginning to recover. Recruiter (first time to CMU) said that he should have started at CMU first and wondered why he had to travel so far from Oregon to find someone lived in Oregon. DS took this position during finals, and when another company he was lobbying finally replied . Unfortunately this company setup the intership schedule on the west coast, quarter system so DS had to wait a month to start. </p>
<p>Another western company, called him in Switzerland, when a PI forgot to put in for an intern. Called on Thurs. Fly out Friday. Visited home on Sat. Started on Monday.</p>
<p>After the above intership, DS couldn’t find a FT job (2008). The PI told ds that if he could find a job, he would carry him for another cycle, but in Germany, at his university.</p>
<p>It does happen BD.
DS took a position as a rising sr. (2005) when the economy was just beginning to recover. Recruiter (first time to CMU) said that he should have started at CMU first and wondered why he had to travel so far from Oregon to find someone in Oregon. DS took this position during finals, and when another company he was lobbying finally replied. Unfortunately this company setup the internship schedule for western colleges’ quarter system, so DS had to wait a 6 weeks and leave early </p>
<p>Another western company, called him in Switzerland, when a PI forgot to put in for an intern. Called on Thurs. Fly out Friday. Visited home on Sat. Started on Monday.</p>
