<p>For a student for whom Rochester is a strong 2nd choice and who noticed the ED2 option on the common app when making plans. </p>
<p>Original plan was to apply ED1 to 1st choice school by Nov 1, and not even apply to Rochester unless student got denied, in which case Rochester becomes the 1st choice, and the student would appropriately apply ED2 to Rochester. This would not happen by Dec 1. </p>
<p>Not sure how to proceed after the recent email and blog post.</p>
<p>For students who apply Priority Review by Dec 1, will there definitely be an opportunity to switch to ED2 should an ED1 application to another school get denied - at which point Rochester genuinely becomes the 1st choice? </p>
<p>If not, would a student who is a pretty strong candidate anyway, be in any way disadvantaged by waiting for the other ED1 decision and then appropriately applying ED2 by Jan 1. The blog is pretty dissuasive about doing that, but says that they will honor it. </p>
<p>Under that scenario, ED2 appears to be pretty compelling, but nobody would want to go against the recommendation of the Dean of Admissions Jon Burdick. </p>
<p>Would this student be better off just applying RD and letting the committee take it's time to get it right?</p>
<p>Well, we know that a student can only apply Early Decision to one school, so, ethically, your student should only apply ED to his number one choice-college. I believe that our mistake in advertising ED II gives the impression that applying ED twice is a good idea, and that wasn’t our intent. ED II is strictly meant for students who are applying ED for the first time, but they simply missed our November 1st deadline.</p>
<p>However, we realize that some students will take advantage of our ED II offer if they rejected by their true first choice school. According to Dean Burdick, even though he dissuades everyone in the blog post from doing so, you WILL be given the opportunity to switch to ED II by January 1st. </p>
<p>Priority Review has no disadvantages. Priority Review applicants are still Regular Decision applicants, but you are applying 1 month ahead of our January 1st deadline. It is not a binding decision, and you will be more competitive for the larger merit scholarships than our standard Regular Decision students who apply between Dec 2nd - Jan 1st. Our ED students are competitive for the larger merit awards as well, but ED is a binding decision, and it is expected that you honor the signed contract. </p>
<p>Please call our office if you would like us to clarify the application process!</p>
<p>Thanks for you reply. I still need more clarification though. Can you take another shot. </p>
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<p>The Common App ED agreement states:
“students… may have only one Early Decision application pending at any time.”</p>
<p>Forgive my ignorance, but I don’t understand the ethical issue in applying EDII to a school after applying ED1 and getting rejected (which makes it no longer pending). In this case, there will not be two ED applications pending at the same time, which would be unethical. Instead, the first school will be out of the picture. Can you show me anywhere where it says that EDII is only meant for students who are applying ED for the first time. </p>
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<p>Indeed that would be the case in the scenario that I’m describing. </p>
<p>I can see that it would be unethical to apply EDII to Rochester by Dec 1 with another ED1 application pending. However, applying Priority Review and then changing it to EDII say on Dec 16th after the first application is no longer pending seems totally ethical because there would be a good faith intention to honor the contract. Further more, Rochester would now genuinely be the first choice (who wants to go to a school that rejected you). We certainly wouldn’t want to do anything unethical, but I’m not understanding why this is an ethical issue at all.</p>
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<p>Actually, Dean Burdick’s Blog post does not dissuade people from switching to EDII by January 1st; it dissuades people from first applying EDII by January 1st without previously submitting an application because the reading period would be too short. However, it says that EDII is <em>intended</em> for students who apply Priority Review who then decide that they want to be EDII. This gives the committee that extra month to review the application. Your post is the first time I’ve seen anyone say that applying EDII after getting rejected by an ED1 school is unethical and I’m concerned why you think that.</p>
<p>I was concerned because I don’t understand the mechanism for switching to ED II from Priority.</p>
<p>In other words, (continuing from the last post), one can apply ED2 by Jan 1 using the Common App simply by checking the box and executing the agreement. However, this appears to be what Dean Burdick doesn’t want people to do. </p>
<p>The alternative seems to be to apply RD by Dec 1. How would one go about changing to EDII then.</p>
<p>Your interpretations are correct, and I apologize for the confusion. (I must was under the impression that there would be an outstanding ED I decision while you applied ED II at UR, which is clearly not the case for the situation that you are describing. There is nothing unethical about applying ED II at Rochester after being rejected from a first choice school. Sorry about that!)</p>
<p>In order to switch from Priority Review or standard Regular Decision to ED II, one simply needs to submit a signed copy of the Early Decision Agreement Form to the University of Rochester Admissions Office. The form should be signed by all three parties (student, parent, College Counselor). Once we receive your ED Agreement Form, we will switch you in our system from Reg. Decision to ED II, which should be reflected in your student’s MyRoc account a few days later. Please feel free to contact our office when you are submitting the ED II form. We are happy to walk you through the process. If you do not see your MyRoc account update to ED II after a few business days, feel free to contact us again. </p>
<p>Switching to ED II is never a problem before January 1st. I simply misinterpreted the question!</p>
<p>That’s what I was looking for. I thought the only way to apply EDII was to check that box on the common app, and that couldn’t ethically be done by Dec 1 in this situation. </p>
<p>Thanks for your detailed and helpful reply. Now it’s crystal clear.</p>
<p>Just as a side note, my daughter applied last year early notification and right after the early decision I’s came out they invited her to change her status to Early Decision II. It was her second choice so she was going to do it if she had not heard positively from her Early decision school. She ended up be accepted despite withdrawing her application as early notification. It was sad for us because U of R offered her money as well. :> (
Great school!</p>
<p>Hello TSocas,
Your explanation on how to change the application from Priority Review to ED2 was really helpful. I am going to apply to UR in Priority Review. UR is my first choice that’s why I won’t be applying ED to any other school but as I need some more time to polish my application I have decided to go with ED 2 for UR. Now , my questions are :</p>
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<li>How do I get the Early Decision Agreement from the Admissions office ( as you mentioned ) after I have submitted my app on Dec 1.
*As I have made up my mind that I’ll apply ED 2 after submitting the PR app within Dec 1 , do I have to indicate that I’ll be applying ED in the common app ? </li>
<li>When are the ED 2 applicants notified of their acceptance ? </li>
<li>Are the ED 2 applicants stronger contestants for a Merit Aid than the PR applicants ?</li>
<li>If accepted after applying ED 2 , when would I know about the aid package I am likely to receive ?
Please have a look at these questions , It’ll be a great help if you would answer these Q for me . Thanks</li>
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<p>Is there a big disadvantage to applying priority review when compared to EDI or EDII? Rochester is my first choice but we are probably not going to receive any financial aid. If it wasn’t for the money issue I would 100% apply to Rochester.</p>
<p>I believe eyemamom’s son was a priority review applicant and then changed to ED2. Like stresseddad’s child was offered an opportunity to switch to ED2 after his priority application was in.</p>
<p>I would like to second what tempe39 said, financial aid is the only thing that is restricting me from applying ED … Anyone who had applied ED ~ after the admission decision how much aid was offered ? And what if the merit aid isn’t sufficient to cover my need , then what to I do as an ED applicant ??</p>
<p>Yes, my son did ed2. He wasn’t ready to commit at the time the app was submitted. However they offered for him to switch from priority to ED II and we were concerned that though it was HIS first choice, he could have been in that group that maybe wouldn’t have gotten in if he didn’t do ED. It put us in a bind to tell you the truth. I was afraid at the time if we turned it down they would reject him. They all said they wouldn’t hold it against him if he didn’t choose to switch but I couldn’t be sure. And of course being full pay couldn’t have hurt either. To this day I don’t know the reasons beyond why they contact kids with apps in to switch - was it just because his app was in and complete or was their more to it? It would have been awful to be asked to switch and then get rejected, especially since as newbies we attempted to read tea leaves to define what it all meant.</p>
<p>Absolutely do not do ED if you aren’t completely willing and able to go full freight.</p>
<p>“financial aid is the only thing that is restricting me from applying ED … what if the merit aid isn’t sufficient to cover my need , then what to I do as an ED applicant ??”</p>
<p>If the aid is insufficient to support attendance (it’s your decision), you decline the offer and apply RD elsewhere.</p>
<p>“Absolutely do not do ED if you aren’t completely willing and able to go full freight.”</p>
<p>Full freight generally is not a factor. The Common App ED FA rule:
Having a by-far number one favorite above all others should be required to apply ED, where the only question is: Can we afford it?</p>