Switching to ED

<p>We received a letter in the mail today asking if we wanted to switch to ED. What would the advantage be? Is the acceptance rate higher? They said we could hear in 3 weeks of switching. DS applied EN so he'd hear by Feb 15.</p>

<p>If you decide to switch from EN or Regular Decision to ED II, please realize that ED II is a binding decision. If admitted to Rochester as an ED II applicant, you will have to withdraw your applications from all other schools. </p>

<p>If you decide to apply ED to the University of Rochester, you are basically saying that you love our school and you believe that it is a great fit for you. We will take that into account when making the admissions decision. While we still have high admissions standards for ED and ED II students, we are slightly more lenient with our ED applicants in terms of GPA/test scores. Our merit scholarship standards will remain the same for all applicants. (ED and ED II students are still eligible for merit scholarships.) </p>

<p>See our recently updated 2011-2012 fact sheet for admissions statistics: [University</a> of Rochester : Fast Facts](<a href=“http://enrollment.rochester.edu/admissions/learning/facts.shtm]University”>http://enrollment.rochester.edu/admissions/learning/facts.shtm) </p>

<p>If you got that “gut feeling” while visiting the University of Rochester, and you love things like our Open Curriculum, the Take-5 Program, access to undergraduate research, etc. then you might want to consider switching to ED II. You should know that without a doubt, the University of Rochester is your number one choice.</p>

<p>I hope that helps!</p>

<p>We only withdraw applications if there is an acceptance, not just applied correct? We’ll already be hearing back from schools next week, it may be too late to stop. </p>

<p>I think the one thing holding me back is that we aren’t applying for aid, but merit would be nice. We have to decide if we’re willing to pay full price should there be no aid.</p>

<p>If admitted to Rochester as an ED II applicant, you will have to withdraw your applications from all other schools. </p>

<p>EN might be the safer option for any family with financial concerns (EN is not binding). Best of luck with your decision!</p>

<p>I think (thought) EN is a great program. This makes it feel a little bait-and-switch-y. I will be disappointed if my D were to apply EN next year and get one of these letters. It would significantly increase her stress level, making her worry more about not being accepted, like the university is questioning her decision not to apply ED. Perhaps I will suggest she not apply EN after all.</p>

<p>It has certainly increased the stress level in our house tonight.</p>

<p>Ours too. Makes you rethink everything you planned up to this point. Ds is upstairs in his room right now thinking things over. We went through the pros and cons… is what we assume a better chance here worth giving up his other choices? I figure at least you find out quickly, probably before January, and if it’s a no, everything else is still in place. </p>

<p>He applied to a bunch of schools, but in reality likes UR and a completely and totally different kind of school - a large public university. Both are kind of reaches, neither has a guarantee, so he could give up a better chance to only find himself not in either place. It clarified quickly where he really stood with the rest of them.</p>

<p>I offered to fly him back to see the school again, but he said he didn’t need to. He’s only been once, whereas he’s been to the local public flagship several times. The plan was to go revisit anyplace he got admitted. </p>

<p>I’m leaning towards sticking with EN, if he’s not 100% sure, I don’t want him to have any regrets. </p>

<p>What do you the rest of you think the motive is behind this? Did every single applicant get this choice?</p>

<p>What a headache. My daughter, at this point, says she will stick with EN.</p>

<p>Sorry for the anxiety everyone… Please feel free to give our Admissions Office a call if you need help weighing your ED II / EN / Regular Decision options. Our Counselors helped answer a few questions today from concerned parents and students about this ED II mailing. (We did this ED II pitch last year too, but I don’t believe it was much of an issue because EN did not exist last year.)</p>

<p>I should probably clarify one thing… I mentioned above that by selecting ED II you are telling us that you are “head over heels for Rochester.” Believe me, the Admissions Counselors here realize that many of our EN and Regular Decision applicants are also “head over heels for Rochester”, but these applicants have a few other options that they want to keep on the table - which is completely fine! We want you all to make the decision that is best for you and your family. If your instinct is telling you to stick with Early Notification, then follow that notion! </p>

<p>If anyone has any other questions, I’m happy to be as transparent as possible!</p>

<p>Tyler</p>

<p>Hi Tyler, after receiving the admissions DVD my D fell in love with the school even more, so ED II is looking very good to her. I spoke with admissions yesterday and they said it is a 2-3 week turn around time for the decision once the binder is sent in. Can this, (the binder), be faxed and will you be notifying during the week of the 25th or would you be closed and be sending decisions out after the New Year? Thanks!</p>

<p>My son received a similar letter in the admissions cycle 2 years ago (he’s a sophomore at Roch now). We just figured URoch was trying to get more students to lock in early and didn’t read too much into it. It was my son’s top choice (and is for my 2012 son this year too), but my husband and I decided way back that ED isn’t an option for us financially, so S didn’t switch to ED and didn’t worry about it. Best of luck to all applicants! I would love to have S 2012 attend Rochester also - it’s been a wonderful experience for my older son so far. He’d probably be ED if we allowed it, but he’s not the type to worry about it too much either way - he’s got one of those personalities where he filled out the application, he really hopes to be accepted, and now it’s out of his mind until the decision comes in February.</p>

<p>stresseddad,</p>

<p>Yes, the Early Decision Agreement form can be faxed to our office (or mailed).</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Docs/DownloadForms/2012/2012EarlyDecision_download.pdf[/url]”>https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Docs/DownloadForms/2012/2012EarlyDecision_download.pdf&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>The University of Rochester Admissions Office fax number is: 585-461-4595</p>

<p>Please make sure that all three signatures are on the form before it is sent.</p>

<p>You’ll have your decision about three weeks after we receive this ED Agreement form and completed application. With the holidays coming up, I can’t see these ED II decisions going out until after the New Year. Our office is closed on the Mondays after Christmas and New Years Day. So, if you submit this form on Monday, December 12th you probably won’t actually receive the decision letter until Friday, January 6th.</p>

<p>(Your MyRoc account will move on to the last step when the letter has been mailed. This will let you know when you should start pestering your local mailman!)</p>

<p>After the holidays go by, the 3 week response time will be more accurate.</p>

<p>Ds came home from school and said he’s going for it! He was just taken aback and needed a few moments to think about it. And we did too, we thought through our strategy and it just took us off guard. He talked to his guidance counselor who talked about the options. He came home with a big smile on his face and is now really excited. </p>

<p>I realize he needs his gc’s signature on the form, so we’ll dh is talking about popping over to see him Monday morning so we can get it faxed over asap.</p>

<p>Tyler - you must promise me… do not defer this kid to rd after asking him to switch! lol We need a yes or a no. His poor mom couldn’t handle it.</p>

<p>So here’s my take on these switch letters going out from UofR. (Full disclosure, my S applied ED1 and is waiting by the mailbox.) The application process for competitive schools is a mess. As a data analyst by profession, I see the % of kids picked ED going up in most selective schools every year. The whole process of deciding ED1 v. 2 v. EN is bad enough without the schools themselves adding to the stress (see Eyemamom above) by encouraging switches in status. If UofR’s common data set for the past few years shows an increase in the percentage of those accepted coming from the ED1 and 2 Pool, that’s heavy pressure to put on EN kids. My older son got into this trap in an Ivy school which my wife and I both attended, WAS deferred and then was sadly rejected. I cannot tell you how it basically destroyed a relationship my family had had with that school for 5 generations. I understand why U of R as the seller might like to lock in as many good candidates as possible but I think it is an ill-advised strategy that only the most select of the select can afford. Parents talk, Guidance counselors talk. If a kid has decided he’s just ready for EN, let him be. Just my opinion, but its hard enough on the kids as it is.</p>

<p>I agree, bristolstomp. I hope the admissions office will pay attention and not add this pressure to the EN kids in the future.</p>

<p>TSoCash – is there a deadline for making the decision to switch to ED2? Can the switch still be made on Monday (Dec 19)? Also – how are decision notifications handled for ED 2 – for both ED1 and EN, there seems to be a set notification date when UR sends out everyone’s decision at once. Will the ED2 decisions be sent out on specific days as well or on a “rolling” basis? I realize from your prior post that if the switch to ED2 is made now (assuming it can be), the decision from UR would likely take more than 3 weeks due to the holidays – but do you think it would be sometime around Jan 15? </p>

<p>Thanks again for all your help on this board.</p>

<p>No problem!</p>

<p>There is no hard and fast deadline for switching to ED II, but a good rule of thumb is to opt into ED II before the middle of January. ED II’s will be admitted on a rolling basis, with decisions going out within 3 weeks of receiving your complete application AND the ED Agreement Form. </p>

<p>If you opted into ED II on 12/19/11 you should definitely have a letter in your hand by 1/15/12. If it has been longer than 3 weeks, you can always give us a call and we’re happy to tell you if your letter is in the mail or if there is something holding up your application.</p>

<p>TSocash:
I have applied for REMS at University of Rochester. Can I still apply for Early Notification? Is it too late now and is it available for REMS?
Thanks</p>

<p>laloooji,</p>

<p>As long as your application was completed and submitted prior to December 1st, you might still be considered for Early Notification. You will have to give the Office of Admissions a call to discuss your situation.</p>

<p>Thanks, I am going to call them today</p>