Congratulations to fellow Bruins!

<p>I just came across this board while I was looking for some information on college admission process (I work in private education industry), and upon spotting a handful of eager, determined, and ambitious youngsters who are waiting for another critical, yet fun stage of their lives, I would like to post a few very practical points on the best way to capitalize on your education at UCLA (or for that matter, any other campuses of UC.)</p>

<p>For your information, I graduated with a BA degree in Business Economics in 2001, so I might be a little biased toward giving more business industry-focused advice.</p>

<li>The job search starts as early as your sophomore year!</li>
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<p>Although you will interview for a full-time, first post-graduate job position in the last quarter of your senior year, you need to plan ahead, as early as two years prior to graduation. The best way to separate yourself from others, hence putting yourself in the best position to garner job offers, is by taking up on a prestigious internship program offered by a variety of fortunate 500 companies, such as Microsoft, IBM, Goldman Sach, and McKinsey. </p>

<p>The student are selected based on GPA, unique characteristics, motivation, and interview. Thus, you need to have a strong GPA (something like 3.5+) to get invited for a final interview call. Once you secure the internship position, you are basically set, as the company will pay you a large amount of money for your services over the summer and the relationship you would get to build with the senior level people at respective companies will certainly pay dividends when you are trying to get a “real” job.</p>

<p>No one gave me this kind of advice when I was studying at UCLA, and had I gotten such advice, I would have had far more opportunities to jumpstart my career, even though I have already received great values in return for my education at UCLA, in terms of job offers, compensation packages, and the prestige level of the company I was once associated with.</p>

<li>If you plan to get a job first before you go on to the graduate school, take a lot of math classes.</li>
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<p>Not only taking higher level math classes, such as Math 32A: Several Variables of Calculus and Statistics, would provide with real-life, practical business acumen, but also taking them would signal to potential recruiters that you are a very bright person with dedication who possess keen COMMON ENSE (read: logical thinking). It’s just amazing to see how “normal” people lack such basic common sense when working with each other in real life, but really, really, common sense in the form of fluid logic matters a lot.</p>

<p>And in order to train yourself in this regard and to send positive signal to potential suitors of your professional service, take as many math courses as you can. Trust me. Doing so will give so much benefits of doubt when entering the job market.</p>

<li>UCLA stands for “University of Caucasians Lost among Asians”.</li>
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<p>As the name implies, UCLA, for that matter other UC campuses, is such a diverse place, and if you havent been in a situation where every individual around you is with some weird ethnic background, it might be a good idea to join some clubs that would help you gain some various perspectives on life. Remember you are not attending college just to get education, you are going to college in order to prepare for a real world. And boys and girls, the real world is a full of diversity, whether the diversity is nationality, ethnicity, sexual orientation, interests, beliefs, religions, etc.</p>

<p>Knowing how to present yourself and how to carry yourself even in the most awkard situation is what will make you great among your peers.</p>

<p>Talking about presenting yourself, also take some Business Communication courses in which you would be practicing your speech and presentation manner - a huge confidence booster.</p>

<li>Take as many writing courses as you can.</li>
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<p>Similar line of reasoning as the No. 2.</p>

<p>You would be surprised to learn how many people come out of college without even knowing the basic difference between formal business writing and informal writing.</p>

<p>Again, more you practice, better you will be.</p>

<p>The name tag value of UCLA carries a lot of weight whether you are living in LA, in Asia, or other parts of the world.</p>

<p>When I graduated from UCLA in 2001, I came out with a couple of great job offers, and looking back, I can only think of one possible explanation for such humble position I was in - the values of UCLA education.</p>

<p>Many executives working in LA have either working experiences with UCLA graduates or at least quite familiar with the rigorous curriculum set by UCLA standard. If you want to live and work in LA, then the place to go is, hands down, UCLA. I even got accepted to UC Berkeley in 1995, but I decided not to go there for the reasons hard to quantify or qualitify back then. And I havent looked back at all, as I quickly became enamored with UCLA and everything it offered!</p>

<p>I wrote this little post to your fellas so that you guys would, hopefully, receive the same level of benefits and opportunities when I graduated back in 2001.</p>

<p>I even got accepted to UC Berkeley in 1995, but I decided not to go there for the reasons hard to quantify or qualitify back then. And I havent looked back at all, as I quickly became enamored with UCLA and everything it offered!</p>

<p>Cheers!</p>

<p>That's some really good advice... I've started my job search since my freshman year, and my major requires me to take seven math courses so I've got that down pat... unfortunately taking more writing courses is a luxury some of us can't afford, especially if we're in Engineering and/or trying to graduate within four years... a lot of people here have some pretty poor communication/motivational skills because they're constantly burned out. But your words are a great confidence booster coming from a UCLA Biz-Econ grad; the diversity of students I've met here at UCLA rivals that of my home town of Toronto, which is already a very ethnically diverse city.</p>

<p>DaRaverLA, I love what you're saying. Lol about math. People seem shocked when I tell them I have no intention whatsoever to go into math or engineering, though I love math for the fun of it, ... and figured it'll come in handy - and if not, oh well - I had fun while I was at it, so nothing lost.
Great post, really!</p>

<p>_jc, I think you are on the dope sir.</p>

<p>Math is to fun like a boot to the groin is to delicious pizza. ;)</p>

<p>That's really good advice.</p>

<p>I'm a high school senior, and I've been interning at my town's newspaper for two years. It's given me really valuable experience not only working in a job setting, but it has also taught me a lot about writing. I completely agree that a lot of really smart people can't write at ALL. </p>

<p>I'm considering a major in Communications, and I've heard UCLA is great for that, so it's one of my top choices.</p>

<p>DaRavenLA, I've been accepted under chemical engineering, but after many long hours of debating with myself and parents, I have realized that I want to major in economics. I am very good at math and am seen as an outgoing person with a great personality. I was going to major in chemical engineering (bio focus) because it would give me a great background for entering med school (anesthesiology), but I would rather get a degree in economics and have something i really can fall back on if I wasn't accepted in to med school. My father is a CEO of a software company and actually got a BA in econ at UCLA 20 years ago, and I have learned much from him about business. Do you think it is possible to change out of engineering and in to econ in L & S before fall next year...or would I have to wait a quarter or more. Much appreciated...Jason</p>

<p>"Do you think it is possible to change out of engineering and in to econ in L & S before fall next year...or would I have to wait a quarter or more. Much appreciated...Jason"</p>

<p>Jason, you dont have to worry. It is very easy to switch from engineering to L&S major. All you need to do is to maintain at least "B" average (which is like getting "3" on AP exams in my book: you need to study but not hard at all) and file for a petitition to change your major. The evaluation proces is rather a formality, and as long as you are over 3.0, you can switch to any majors at L&S.</p>

<p>But if you want the vice-versa of switching from L&S to engineering, I think you need to have 3.2 and have some major compelling reasons behind the switch. But again, its very doable, and I have seen quite a lot of people switching from one major to the other.</p>

<p>You will not declare Business Econ or Econ major until your third year, so you have a plenty of time to explore your options in your first year. Unlike engineering majors in which you have to study your core major courses from the day one, you have far more time and comforts in preparing for the Busines Econ and econ majors in your first two years.</p>

<p>Thanks DaRavenLA...that was very helpful</p>