<p>I love UCLA. i do not like Berkeley. UCLA doesnt have a business program. Berkeley does.</p>
<p>i got into L&S for both, and i have full financial aid for both.</p>
<p>i went to CAL DAY, and it was whatever. I visited UCLA it was incredible.</p>
<p>Question is, can i still be successful at UCLA without a Business Degree?</p>
<p>Yes you can, ABSOLUTELY</p>
<p>I personally don't consider an econ degree inferior at all and am glad I'm getting mine right now.</p>
<p>There was an article about this in the Bruin paper today. It said some firms chose students from Cal Poly Pomona over Ucla since we weren't prepared enough (couldn't draw up business plans, etc.). One student also quoted that. The response was that what internships are for, but regardless you should go where you think you will be happier.</p>
<p>go to berkeley.</p>
<p>eventually you will learn to love it.i hear nothing but complaining from all my friends who are bizecon here.</p>
<p>What are they complaining about?</p>
<p>Go to Haas if you can.
I'm sure it will be much more beneficial to you in the future.</p>
<p>they complain about the fact that they aren't really learning all that much, trouble with getting internships, as well as the noticeable scarcity of recruiters on our campus.</p>
<p>Well, I don't have that many schools to compare to, but here at UCLA, there were tons of on-campus interviews starting with full-time recruitment in fall and ending with internship recruitment in March. During the last couple weeks of spring quarter I was so busy interviewing that I had to skip classes every week and even re-schedule interviews. And I was nowhere close to being invited to all the positions I applied for. Thank god :)</p>
<p>I guess people come to UCLA biz econ and think that from now on, getting jobs is gonna be a cakewalk for them. You have to do something for it. But UCLA does provide you with lots of opportunities.</p>
<p>I really focused on internship recruiting last quarter and monitored every company that came to campus, and there weren't a whole lot of firms missing. In the end I knew several people getting investment banking jobs and other highly sought after positions.</p>
<p>About not learning much, true, if you think biz econ is a Business degree, you're in the wrong program, but I'd expect any slightly intelligent individual to research a program before applying for it. You'd then find out that biz econ is an econ degree with 4 accounting classes and the option to minor in accounting plus 2 business courses (from the econ 106 series).</p>
<p>^i want to emphasize a good point that maxx made. Bizecon is VERY economics heavy. a couple of my friends thought it was an easy business degree and they switched majors after taking the first few econ/math classes.</p>
<p>That's what I like about the major, it's not only econ heavy, it is an econ major but with additional opportunities, like accounting. And you could also get a specialization in computing.</p>
<p>As much as Berkeley does not appeal to me, I would go there for the business program and try to get into Haas. More than half of the applicants get in, and if you don't have make it, you have a backup major plan (like economics, mass communications, political science, etc). I do know that once you've graduated from the Haas program, it won't be that hard to find a job (average starting salary is ~$55K). I applied as a pre-business major, but I'm probably going to end up at UCLA because of a different concentration. ;)</p>
<p>Hey, I've been wondering this for a while: is Buisness econ the ONLY business degree offered at UCLA?</p>
<p>yes. It's not even a business degree, a lot of good schools (including most ivies) don't offer undergrad business degrees</p>
<p>if you don't like cal that much, go to UCLA!</p>
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<p>.< , after reading that article in the daily bruin and talking to other people in biz econ i am worried now. I am pre-biz econ and i think i will transfer to a different school. Because from all I here right now, it seems like every one who gets out of the econ major are going into accounting. >.< and that is not m goal.</p>
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<p>I think I've done enough trying to defend biz econ in this thread and a couple others. UCLA is one of the top schools in the nation, and the top school in SoCal, plus biz econ is a very competitive program respected by employers (they told me during interviewing, and yes, I interviewed not only for accounting jobs). I think it would be your own fault if you couldn't use this in order to land a great job after graduation.</p>
<p>I got into BizEcon as transfer, and I've been doing some research about various programs UCLA has to offer, and I have to say UCLA has so much...</p>
<p>There is no such program like Specialization in Computing in Cal and UCLA has much variety of programs for Math Department, ranging from pure mathematics to applied and individual plans. Cal doesn't offer this kind of self-planning, at least not for mathematics.</p>
<p>All in all, I personally think if I were to compare Haas with BizEcon alone, then I would prefer Haas. However, UCLA has much more combination of programs that can be great supplements to BizEcon program. That's what I like about UCLA. Cal is too much.... traditional-route based. UCLA has many more supplementary programs that blend in with various programs to make a perfect whole.</p>
<p>Thus, I would prefer UCLA over Cal if I were to look at the big picture.</p>
<p>So many people are going into business nowadays...its a shame that the competition forces us to take many classes to weed out some people, because the major seems to be useful in getting a job at nearly any company right?</p>
<p>ok ok so to summarize:</p>
<p>how much better is Haas compared with UCLA's biz program?</p>
<p>It seems that although students know UCLA's biz program isnt that strong, others, such as employment companies, will view a biz-econ degree from UCLA as strongly as cal, simply because UCLA still carries the UCLA name. true?</p>
<p>I think it's been said so many times now, UCLA doesn't have a biz program, so in that way, yes, it's not as strong, it doesn't even exist. UCLA has a econ program which has a concentration in accounting.</p>