Does anyone know how to find out which MT programs are conservatory or conservatory style or have very few liberal arts arts classes outside of the MT Major?
I know Carnegie Mellon, Boston Conservatory, Webster, are there others?
CCPA Roosevelt
Ithaca. CCM.
MSM
The terms “Conservatory” and “Conservatory-style” are used very loosely. Many or most BFA programs refer to themselves in this manner. It pays to find the catalog for each school on their website and look up the musical theatre curriculum for each school that you are interested in. You might be very surprised at what you find.
Here are some numbers that I pulled last year:
Boco 41 (but several courses are about theatre)
Carnegie-Mellon 20 (estimated @ 3 CMU credits per conventional semester hour)
Catholic U 30
CCM 18
Coastal Carolina 34-41
East Carolina 42
Elon 56-60
Emerson College 56
Florida State 36
Ithaca College 17-21 (apparently many Gen Ed requirements met by Theatre coursework)
Long Island Post 41
Molloy/CAP21 44
Montclair State 22
NYU Tisch 32
NYU Steinhardt 44
Pace 44
Penn State 41-45
Rider 33
Roosevelt/CCPA 24
SUNY Buffalo 31
Syracuse 30
U Central Florida 36
U Miami 21-30
Western Carolina 42
Western Michigan 38
Here is a link to the thread about Gen Eds: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/1812173-gen-eds-p1.html
The number on that list is not accurate for Montclair. Should be 31.
Hartt has 30 credits of Gen Ed out of 137 total credits. Many can be fulfilled by AP credits coming in depending on your scores on your AP tests. Almost all are electives, so you have choice about what you want to take. There is one required Math course.
I agree that putting curriculums side by side is the best way to do it rather than any terminology or name.
Just adding that at NYU/Tisch, many of the non-studio classes are in the area of Theater Studies.
Texas State has 41 Gen Ed hrs required out of 128 to graduate. My S had about 18 gen Ed hrs when he enrolled thanks to AP and dual credit courses taken in high school.
Wright State has 38 “core” hours (including 3 for Theater in Western Culture) required out of 127 for MT (24 hrs of Dance). Acting BFA has 38 core plus 12 electives, Dance = 6 hrs out of 124 total to graduate.
UArts: 33 credits of liberal arts electives are required out of the 129 program requirement credits. All LA courses incorporate the arts in some way.
OCU has 40 gen eds required out of 130 hours for the BM MT degree. The BFA Acting degree requires 40 gen eds out of 127 hours.
Some of these gen eds may be satisfied with AP or dual credit courses taken in high school. Additionally, some of these requirements can be satisfied in other ways. For example, the 6 hours of foreign language required can be satisfied by having taken 4 years of a foreign language in HS or by passing a CLEP test if you did not take the AP test.
For each school in which you are interested, talk to the admissions office and/or an academic counselor to make sure you understand what each school will accept. If you are going to use AP credits,make sure what each school’s policy is on what score they will accept. It will differ from school to school. Same for dual credits. Some schools will accept them, some may not.
If I’m reading it correctly my daughter’s program at University of Utah (BFA MT) has 132 hours: 33 Gen Eds and 99 MT. One of the Gen Eds is satisfied with the upper level Theater History course (and so I included it with the MT and not Gen Eds). They also have Core Dance all 8 semesters as well as MT dance after Freshman year. The entire 4 year “suggested coursework” is on their webpage.
Numbers have changed for Ithaca, too. Here is the breakdown (note that the MT major is considered a double major in Theatre and Voice): http://ithaca.smartcatalogiq.com/en/2015-2016/Undergraduate-Catalog/School-of-Humanities-and-Sciences/Department-of-Theatre-Arts/Musical-Theatre-Major-BFA
Shenandoah Conservatory only has 18 required credit hours (6 classes) outside of the conservatory. Freshman seminar, English composition, mathematical reasoning, science, social science, and moral reasoning. Other gen ed requirements are embedded in the degree (for example theatre history fulfills the history requirement and voice and speech fulfills the communications requirement).
~VT
Depending on the college, many of the gen eds can be knocked out by AP credits. My daughter is a junior at Utah and is completely done with gen eds. She came in as a freshman with 27 hrs.
Otterbein’s program is very conservatory-like. My daughter had only one “regular” class per semester (there might have been one semester where she had two core classes, but that would’ve been the maximum). I was looking for the PDF that has each year and the curriculum shown, but couldn’t find it online.
This link is a little confusing, but just know that there is essentially one “regular” course per semester. http://otterbein.catalog.acalog.com/preview_program.php?catoid=20&poid=1397&returnto=1302