<p>Which undergraduate business schools have good placements into management consulting firms upon graduation?</p>
<p>I believe students from the top 10 business schools will have good chances? (I don't know about NYU)</p>
<p>It depends on what you mean by "management consulting firms." Do you mean the elite M/B/B (and possibly Booz Allen)? In this case, you should attend an ivy league or top 5 undergrad business school. These positions are hard to get as an undergrad anyway. Most consultants are hired after getting an MBA and/or significant industry experience. Note that these firms tend to hire regionally. Almost all of Michigan Ross BBA alumni are in Bain Chicago and not Bain Boston (HQ), for example. Many Stanford alums in San Francisco, etc. You might want to take that into consideration. But given all the travel, it probably doesn't even matter which office you work in, but I'm not too sure.</p>
<p>2nd tiers and beyond like IBM, Deloitte, Accenture, AT Kearney, LEK, and everything below regularly hire from good to top undergraduate schools. They tend to have less focus on recruiting MBAs. Mercer Oliver Wyman (arguably top tier) hire more undergrads than grads.</p>
<p>A mix of b-schools and non b-schools at undergrad level: Ivy League, MIT, Berkeley,Stanford,Michigan Ross,I would imagine Duke and UVA.</p>
<p>Target schools tend to be what you'd expect.</p>
<p>Ivy league (often excluding cornell)
MIT/Caltech/Stanford
UChicago, Wesleyan, Pomona/Harvey Mudd/Claremont
Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore</p>
<p>Credits of Denzera, a poster on this board who's actually a consultant.</p>
<p>I go to Stern, we have a handful of people go into consulting (not sure if its cause or effect, everyone at stern thinks ibanking is better than consulting, which seems to not hold true at other school). From what I've heard the good consulting places want HYP or Wharton for undergrad</p>
<p>How's Northwestern for recruiting? If Uchicago's a target school... maybe Northwestern is one too...</p>
<p>As I said on another thread here, the top consulting firms hire primarily MBAs. Despite this, some of the top undergraduate programs do place quite a few people into consulting. Examples are NYU and UVA (and Wharton, of course).</p>
<p>The primary reason that HYP get recruited at the undergraduate level as consultants relates to the nature of consulting--which is to spend a lot of time "pitching" customers--meaning networking and public speaking is extremely important at the undergraduate level--plus there is a bit of mathematical analysis involved in a lot of these positions.</p>
<p>While they may be qualified to do so, I'm not convinced that there are all that many consultants coming out of MIT, Caltech, and Pomona--despite some of what is written above by MK99--and apparently by Denzera. Most of the graduates from those high-tech schools go into different type of careers--primarily research, R&D, or jobs leading to management at engineering firms. The same applies to Stanford. </p>
<p>Stanford business students (all graduates, since Stanford has no undergraduate business school) are another story. These people are highly prized as management consultants.</p>
<p>Also, as I said on the other thread--there are many different types of managment consulting firms. The strategic managment firms concentrate on hiring MBAs at the graduate level. The others hire undergraduates and graduates from business schools and other majors depending upon the focus and the students' background and knowledge. There is a lot of focus on financial, accounting, and IT knowledge at certain types of firms (operational consulting and IT consulting), while general math and analysis knowledge is more important in firms that focus on shareholder value and process re-engineering.</p>
<p>Above is a list of BW's rankings of the top UNDERGRAD b-schools. Does anybody know how consulting recruiting crosses over with this list?</p>
<p>It mentions in the blurb on Berkeley/Haas that McKinsey is a top recruiter, but there wasn't much talk about this at the other schools. I would imagine several of the top 5, if not top 10 are target schools.</p>
<p>OK now besides what school you go to, what are some of the key factors that consulting firms look for during recruiting? with regards to extracurriculars, internships, coursework, major etc... or is it more about networking/interviewing skills?</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=235587&highlight=consulting+core%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=235587&highlight=consulting+core</a>,</p>
<p>Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Penn (Wharton and College)
Dartmouth
Princeton
Northwestern
MIT
Michigan</p>
<p>look the best.</p>
<p>That's an interesting list, of where 5 of the top consulting firms recruit from:</p>
<p>All 5
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Penn (Wharton and College) </p>
<p>4/5
Dartmouth
Princeton
Northwestern</p>
<p>3/5
MIT
Michigan</p>
<p>2/5
Duke
UVA
CAL
Amherst
Williams
Columbia</p>
<p>1/5
Brown
Cornell
Chicago
Emory
Rice
UNC
UIUC
Notre Dame
UT- Austin
BYU
Georgetown
SMU
Claremont college system (Pomona and Harvey Mudd)</p>
<p>just because a firm recruits at a school doesn't mean they accept many students.</p>
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I'm not convinced that there are all that many consultants coming out of MIT...Most of the graduates from those high-tech schools go into different type of careers--primarily research, R&D, or jobs leading to management at engineering firms.
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<p>Well, I don't know about that. First off, keep in mind that management at the MIT Sloan School is the 2nd most popular undergrad major (after all the various types of EECS). </p>
<p>Secondly, the career stats seem to indicate that quite a substantial number of MIT undergrads head off to consulting. And that's not just the Sloan management undergrads, but other majors as well. Granted, investment banking and other financial services are significantly more popular. But still, as can be seen on p.11-12 of the following pdf, a quite high number enter consulting. For example, let's put Sloan management aside. I see that of the MIT EECS undergrads (course 6), their employers include such firms as Bain and BCG. </p>
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That's an interesting list, of where 5 of the top consulting firms recruit from...</p>
<p>3/5
MIT
Michigan
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<p>Uh, I'm interested in knowing exactly which 2 are MIT missing? Seems to me that of the consensus top consulting firms (McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Booz Allen, Monitor, Mercer Oliver Wyman), all of them are at MIT.</p>
<p>I can say just by looking at the list that thats incorrect. </p>
<p>Lists Bain and BCG there. McK also recruits:
<a href="https://lists.aas.duke.edu/pipermail/psy-undergrad/2006-September/000376.html%5B/url%5D">https://lists.aas.duke.edu/pipermail/psy-undergrad/2006-September/000376.html</a></p>
<p>Monitor also has presentations. </p>
<p>MIT also gets all of them (from a friend who applied to a few MCs from MIT this past recruiting season). Columbia also gets pretty much all of them. </p>
<p>You need to realize that the online lists of these firms are not accurate. Alumni often come, not during career fairs, but to private presentations especially if the firm has a history with the institution.</p>
<p>To the OP> The consulting core schools overlap with the core ibanking recruiting grounds. That topic has been covered ad nauseum.</p>
<p>sakky comes to the rescue and saves my past posts</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>mahras, there is a difference between a presentation and being a "core" school. Core school means there is ful recruiting (resume drops, guaranteed interviews on campus, networking nights, etc). The firms visit many schools but only are "core" at a certain number of schools.</p>
<p>I get what you mean slipper. I was referring to core schools as well. At MIT, my friend was telling me how they had alumni come in (and he applied to the best consulting firms as backup for bankings which he used as a backup for this PE place he had connections for), they had them at career fairs, private presentations and all the shabang. </p>
<p>And at Duke Bain recruited >20, BCG >10 based on the the number recruited from organizations below them. McK and Monitor did a handful too (just not enough to be on that list...they did presentations, networking events and this is from a friend so I can't prove it other than the link I sent you) </p>
<p>It isn't right to say that Columbia and MIT are core for only 1 firm (I can't give you any examples from Columbia regarding consulting but just logically that just doesn't look right).</p>
<p>how does UChicago fare with the top 3 consulting firms?</p>
<p>I've heard that Harvard is extremely popular with McKinsey.</p>
<p>I think the Vault list is a bit outdated since Mckinsey does recruit at NYU.</p>