<p>i was thinking more of a focus into sales, marketing, and management</p>
<p>Okay... so for one of your essays you can write about the "business aspect" (sales/marketing/management) of science related industries.</p>
<p>or would you say i focus on sciences such as biology in CALS, and if i do get accepted i'll just take the AEM courses. i was sorta planning on double majoring anyway..</p>
<p>btw are you a cornellian?</p>
<p>You can apply to two majors in CALS. If your dream is AEM, apply to that program with Biology as your second choice (the two most competitive majors to get gain admission to in CALS. Are you a high school sophomore or junior?
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btw are you a cornellian?
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I'm an alum - I graduated a long time ago, but I remain involved.
B.S. Cornell (CALS - Business)
MBA Wharton</p>
<p>few questions.</p>
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<li><p>How would you compare AEM to other top undergrad business schools?
def a good thing to have an aem degree since its going up in ranking</p></li>
<li><p>What are your thoughts on it, professors, classes, courseload, etc.
it is not easy as some people are saying especially some accounting classes are alot of work i heard from friends</p></li>
<li><p>Can you get recruited and given a good position by a big company easily? (does ithaca's rural location make recruitment a disadvantage?)
no there are multiple hiring sessions a year especially since the johnson school is here cornell aem has like the top 3 wages:tuition proportion</p></li>
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<p>im applying ed this year finally and oh yea i live locally and know at least 120 people there</p>
<p>Cornell is a target for all BB investment banks and I think most of the big consulting firms like MBB. I heard that some elite Hedge and PE funds recruit there too but can't say for sure.</p>
<p>It's the only other ivy league business major other than Wharton, of course it's going to have great recruiting :D</p>
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def a good thing to have an aem degree since its going up in ranking
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it's going down.</p>
<p>It went from 14th to 10th in the country last year (Business Week) and is a young program; ranked as fifth best among private colleges and universities by USNWR (ahead of Notre Dame, Wash U, Georgetown, et al.). When it gets more established, perhaps as a named and separate school, it will spike again. No reason to believe it should ever be other than a top 10 program and Cornell is likely to remain the only Ivy other than University of Pennsylvania with an undergrad business major.</p>
<p>probably true as the only 'ivy' other than penn with undergrad business degree, but how is that relevant?</p>
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...is a young program;
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it's been around for 100 years and is ranked 12th by u.s. news, 5th is stern at nyu.</p>
<p>I apologize, it's BW rank is 11th, not 10th. It was officially started in only 2002 when it was accredited, although some version of business education (as there is at many Ivies) was around for 30 years. To go from not recognized to top 10-top 15 status in five years sounds pretty good to me. NYU's Stern is over a century old, Wharton's is 130, and no program near Cornell's is nearly as young.</p>
<p>"John Kraft, dean of the Warrington College of Business at the University of Florida and AACSB president, noted in a letter to the accreditation committee that he wouldnt be surprised if in its first year, the Cornell program will be ranked among the top 10 business schools in the country by U.S. News and World Report in its published rankings of the 600 accredited undergraduate business programs.</p>
<p>'Another of the five business school deans in charge of the accreditation stated that we were academically as good as any of the top five, even before weve completed the changes in the program the association suggested,' says Edward McLaughlin, the Robert G. Tobin Professor of Marketing in the Department of Applied Economics and Management (AEM), who directs the undergraduate business program. 'For the first time were being recognized as among an elite group of top undergraduate business schools.'</p>
<p>Accreditation is actually a form of peer review in which only those schools accredited by the AACSB participate. It took four years for the association to complete a highly rigorous examination of the program offered in AEM before declaring it as stellar in terms of both the academic standards of a business program and also its overall academic quality.</p>
<p>One of the associations main findings was that the faculty was outstanding. 'Students, both inside and outside the major, take our courses in part because they say the teachers are not only good, they are caring and pay attention to them,' says Andrew Novakovic, the E. V. Baker Professor of Agricultural Economics and department chair."</p>
<p>USN&WR and BW rankings are a joke, I would put AEM in the top 5</p>
<p>W
MIT
Berk.
Cornell
UVA/Mich</p>
<p>would be my picks for the top 5 in the country, maybe you could switch a couple a round but I think this is pretty accurate.</p>
<p>from what i heard....AEM's acceptance rate is only about 10 percent....is it true??
And anyone majors in Communication?</p>
<p>wow 10%..can't people just major in a different CALS program and just take AEM classes eitherway?</p>
<p>yes 1 out of 8 actually your chances are better if you live localy</p>
<p>acceptance rate is somewhere around 17% from what i've read but if you're from ny, chances are better. applying early to the program helps tremendously too.</p>
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USN&WR and BW rankings are a joke, I would put AEM in the top 5
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reason being? it must be the 600 students per class?</p>
<p>edit: just as a side note, i think cornell is a great school; excellent in fact. but to say that the aem program is just as good as a school like stern and better than umich is ridiculous. you can't even specialize in something so basic as marketing. the entire major is very broad and you learn little about a little.</p>
<p>Biggyboy - I remember you hanging out on the Cornell board just a few months ago...I can see what your beef is with Cornell AEM... your "first choice" school as a transfer student.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4198046%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4198046</a> post #1
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4198455#post4198455%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4198455#post4198455</a> post #7
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4268312#post4268312%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4268312#post4268312</a> post 3018
and on and on...</p>
<p>You can specialize in marketing... look it up.
Most of the classes are small.</p>
<p>The only good thing Stern has going for it is Damoradan(spelling) and its location.</p>
<p>Umich is a great school and maybe it is better than AEM, I've not attended either school but from what I have read I think AEM is better.</p>
<p>it was my first choice option, i'm not denying it. however, that was more because of financial reasons than the program. i know i want to study business undergrad and would PREFER going to cornell over stern. however i always knew that stern is definitely a better business school than aem at cals. i still prefer going to cornell. but the business education i receive at stern is far better than one i would receive from aem. different people have different priorities.</p>
<p>edit: glad to know i'm so popular Tahoe</p>
<p>What's the point of this thread if you keep repeating yourself and aren't getting any further? Aren't we here to discuss Cornell AEM? This isn't fair to the CC members that want a quality discussion about AEM, not some silly bickering over AEM vs. Stern.</p>
<p>it's not about aem vs. stern but i don't think people on these threads should misinform prospective students.</p>
<p>to the op, your best bet would be to visit the school and ask around, maybe sit in on a classroom, speak to the adcoms. it really depends on what you want to do with your aem degree after you graduate. obviously, it will be pretty difficult for you to get into the cpa field, for example.</p>