Cornell ED rejectees with 2300+ SAT scores

<p>just curious to see how many of us there are. Understanding that SAT scores aren't the only factor in admissions, list your sat score out of 2400, your sat score with just CR and M, and the reason why you probably didn't get in...</p>

<p>2320/2400
1530/1600</p>

<p>I would say my grades...3.45 unweighted--not very good, even tho my curriculum was among the hardest in my school (doesn't rank)</p>

<p>Might not have been so bad, but I was not a legacy/URM/athlete.</p>

<p>no one else? really?</p>

<p>Most people have moved on instead of dwelling and bragging about their SAT scores. I suggest you do the same.</p>

<p>My friend got into Cornell Engineering with a 1900, so I don’t think they put too much weight on SAT scores.</p>

<p>fail thread</p>

<p>agree with norcal</p>

<p>move on with your life</p>

<p>this reeks of a sense of entitlement.</p>

<p>i have a 2370, but i wouldn’t be too surprised to find myself rejected/waitlisted at cornell come march/april. that’s because no perceived correlation between SAT scores and the value of an applicants exists.</p>

<p>There are obvious reasons why SAT’s aren’t that correlated to success at college, but I still think it has some merit. </p>

<p>I think the biggest flaw about SAT’s is that 2/3 of it is English. Yes, you could argue that Cornell doesn’t look at writing, but the truth is, the SAT is still harder for Math people in general. Math people have to work hard for 2/3 of the test (and finish 10 minute early for the M sections) while humanities people only have to work hard for 1/3 of the test. So it’s a lot more energy consuming for Math people. </p>

<p>Yes, that’s why subject tests exist, but subject tests don’t place as much of a weight as the reasoning. Besides, the averages are so high for SAT II’s that they don’t really make you stand out.</p>

<p>Not necessarily. My forte is Math and it took me equal amount of effort to complete the Mathematics and the Reading portions of the SAT as they both are analysis-oriented. It is only during the Writing portion that I had to struggle with the questions.</p>

<p>My SAT breakdown was 620CR/800M/750W superscored. I took the SAT 4 times. I had research experience. I got into Cornell Engineering with a 620CR as an Asian male, which is arguably the worst combination of race/gender in the college admissions process. Having high SATs doesn’t mean much to Cornell admissions officers if you are unable to demonstrate fit in the college you applied to.</p>

<p>I know most of my Math friends finish Math sections 5-10 minutes early. </p>

<p>Very honestly (and no offense), I wouldn’t consider a person good at Math if he/she can’t complete the Math section 5-10 minutes early (assuming he/she is in Gr. 11 or 12). After all, the content is mostly on Gr. 10 stuff.</p>

<p>I definitely agree with clwc59. I can’t tell you how many threads I have read with questions similar to yours across all schools with people asking to be “chanced”, why their SATs didn’t get them in, and statistics of those who get accepted and I’m kind of sick of it. Yes, your numbers are important, but you are also more than just a set of digits. I mean think about it: it’s Cornell. Nearly everyone who applies is going to be in the top percentiles with their scores, AP classes, GPAs, and who knows what else. Thus, when everyone is that way, you have to have some way to distinguish between them. Colleges want to see BEYOND your numbers into who you are as a person and what you can bring to their class. Because truly, students with top grades, AP courses, 4.0 GPAs, and high SATs are a dime a dozen. You need to find a way to bring YOU out in your applications without seeming pompous. If I were you, I would focus less on your scores and focus more on telling the schools you apply to why you feel that you would be a valuable addition to their freshman class. You’re more than your numbers. </p>

<p>Oh, and just so you know, I got deferred from the College of Human Ecology so I’m disappointed too. You just have to pick yourself up and look onward to the next open door.</p>

<p>There should be a new trend; @OP can you list your AP scores (as the variations and the scores of the AP do say a lot more about your academic experiences) rather than your SAT scores. I personally did not do so well on my SAT, however by the end of my Junior year, I had racked up a total of 10 AP tests, most of which relevant to the school that I applied to, and I believe that this was what gave my application the push that was needed to cross the ED line.</p>

<p>Best luck for the future</p>

<p>@LOLhere - hehe, I agree, however I’m ashamed to admit that I am now slower in the Math section than when I first took the SAT in the 7th grade T_T</p>

<p>If you were able to score over 2300 on your SAT but have a low GPA, all it demonstrates is that you had the potential to get a 4.0 or close, but clearly didn’t work hard enough. </p>

<p>Your AP score trends definitely don’t do a good job of showing your academic experience. The curve on some of the tests can be so biased that over 60% of people make 5s and 4s, which gives colleges like Cornell little room to differentiate between its top caliber applicants.</p>

<p>While the results may be biased, you have to keep in mind that not everyone chooses to take the AP exams in May. Those who do decide to ultimately go through with the four hours of rigorous testing do not do so for fun and giggle. Therefore a combination of the score and the variety of the AP’s rather than individual scores is definitely an indication of your academic experience.</p>

<p>I was not bragging, nor was I suggesting I was entitled to a spot at Cornell. I just wanted to see if anyone else had high test scores and got rejected.</p>

<p>Of course test scores aren’t the only factor. My goal was to see if there was anything we could learn from applicants in a similar situation to mine, or to see if there was a significant trend I should’ve been aware of.</p>

<p>There are plenty of brilliant people with low test scores and even low grades who get into Cornell, and I wasn’t suggesting that I was above anybody.</p>

<p>I’m sorry if I unintentionally offended someone.</p>

<p>With schools like Cornell, it’s a crapshoot. As someone has already pointed out, there are plenty of applicants with 2300s. Many of them were rejected or rejected as well, I’m sure. But if you had the qualifications for Cornell, you will probably do just as well anywhere else. Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>Yeah I think you guys should cut some slack for the OP, I really do not feel he (she?) meant any harm and was merely curious.
For the record, I did not get a 2300+, but I got a 2220 which is a score I’m satisfied with. On the AP’s I got two 5’s and three 3’s, applying RD to CAS.</p>

<p>I am not so sure if it is as much of a crap shoot as you all think it is. I’m a freshman this year at Cornell, and here are my two cents. Everyone at Cornell is amazing in some way shape or form. There is no “average” person here (examples: friend from brazil was a junior ambassador to sri lanka last year, friend is professional piano genius, played at carnegie hall and he smokes weed, if people haven’t done anything like this, they are at least very interesting to talk to) . No one gives a **** about what you scored on the SAT or what APs you took. I think the adcoms try to promote this type of environment because it is a vibrant learning community. If the only thing you have behind you is good stats, you stand no chance because you offer nothing to the community that you wish to be a part of. In fact, I would go so far as to say I am glad you were rejected because you would dilute the community which I have grown to love. The affection I have for my class and my school is not based upon some median SAT score or even some perceived high level of general intelligence, but rather upon the connections to the amazing people I have met and the uniqueness that each brings to the community.</p>

<p>i actually really like the OP’s question. i’d like to know this! i want to know GPA’s and extracurriculars about people who were rejected by Cornell and who had an SAT above 2300. just to see if there were any causes, such as a low GPA, or NO extracurriculars, or if admissions is based noticeably on whim…</p>

<p>i think if you have great stats and decent extracirriculars (that show you have an interest in something else besides what is taught in school) you should be fine. i think its great that there are people who are jr ambassadors to sri lanka but admissions ought to come down to numbers for the most part with notable exceptions (research, gap years, national level awards in a field). i was an ED acceptee with great stats and very average extracirriculars. my essay was awesome. they are looking for passion which can be demonstrated by academics (taking a class at a college in a subject), ECs, ur essay or a combo of all three.</p>