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<p>The</a> Death of the Date | The Cornell Daily Sun</p>

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Let’s get one thing straight: I love the guys at Cornell. I adore them. In fact, despite my stories about men in my life that don’t quite do it for me, I get really defensive when girls whine about the crappiness of Cornell dating scene. It especially <strong><em>es me off when girls use their precious crossword-adjacent Sun real estate to *</em></strong> about how romance has died along with the traditional date. </p>

<p>Memo to you: your life is not a Herman Wouk novel or an Audrey Hepburn movie. Furthermore, the guys you’re surrounded with at Cornell, for the most part, are not awful. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that any time you’re losing faith in them, five minutes of browsing the Craigslist personals section will be enough to snap you right back to reality. As a student here, you have access to thousands of guys that are mostly well-read and pre-screened for intelligence (albeit not necessarily for maturity, but you can’t win ‘em all) and they’re all neatly packed into 5.5 square-mile area for your convenience…so what the hell are you complaining about? Girlfriends, let’s have a little chat. </p>

<p>“What ever happened to the date?” Not a damn thing. You’re in college. I might know why you’re not getting asked out on dates, though, so keep reading. </p>

<p>“Why do guys always ask me to come over and watch a movie at 1 a.m.?” Well, I’m going to go ahead and venture a guess here: probably because they want to have sex with you. At the very least, it means you’re a hottie. Take it as a compliment and consider it your cue to dab on a little lip gloss and make kissy faces at yourself in the mirror, you sassy minx. </p>

<p>“But why won’t he just take me out to dinner?” Because dinner costs money, buttercup. If he doesn’t ask you on a date (or at least make the effort to talk to you online for more than five minutes before asking you to come over for said movie [sex]), then he’s likely just not that into you. Or he’s an *******. These things happen. If he doesn’t care why you chose Cornell over Northwestern or how much you miss your cat, he’s not going to relinquish his precious time and money to hear about it at the Boatyard. He probably won’t care about that stuff after you have sex with him either, just so you know. Well, that is unless he made the extra special effort to Facebook-stalk you to see what your favorite movie is and then invited you over to watch it—in that situation, maybe he’s just awkward or is acutely aware that his table manners will repulse you in a hot second so he doesn’t want to eat around you. But no, in most of these cases, he just wants to eat you. </p>

<p>But take note! For every guy who asks you over for sex at 1 a.m., there is probably a guy living next door that would totally leave flowers on your doorstep just to make you smile. Or a guy who would send you a really sweet text message before a bad prelim or bring you coffee in the middle of the night just because he knew you’d be up studying. It’s not unheard of. It’s even happened to me, believe it or not. </p>

<p>But sure. Be bitter, ladies. I mean, I feel you—I’ve had my share of traumatizing experiences with boys here. I’ve been groped like an 8th grader, I’ve been rejected, I’ve been stalked, and I’ve been dumped in a spectacular fashion. I’ve been asked into a relationship via Facebook and have been on a couple of dates so awful that I’d probably rather have spent those evenings watching birth control commercial marathons with my father (by the way, isn’t that ****ing awkward when you and your dad are sitting there and a Yasmin ad comes on? No? Just Me? O.K.) I’ve been where you are. But don’t you think the experiences Cornell guys have had with us have been just as cringe-worthy? </p>

<p>Think about the times you’ve rejected someone, whether it was the grad student who offered to buy you a G&T at Rulloff’s or the sweet but dorky guy on your dorm floor who asked you to join him for coffee at Libe Café. How many times have you forced a guy to carry the conversation as he tried desperately to get to know you? Maybe you’ve led a guy on when you’ve had a boyfriend or hooked up with someone on a booze-soaked fraternity floor (hey, we were all freshmen once). You’re sketchy, too, you know, and sometimes you’re really not that nice. For example, I know I’ve been a total *<strong><em>bag for no reason. Like the time I woke up with a guy, both of us hung over with total cotton-mouth, and I refused to share my Diet Coke with him. He looked all sad-puppy at me as I guzzled the one non-alcoholic liquid in my house and I rather enjoyed it, to be honest. He did not ask me to go to brunch with him, presumably because I was a *</em></strong>. </p>

<p>Then there are the bars. There are few things more intimidating to a dude than a group of five or six of us in our cute tops and killer heels. Then there’s you with your cell phone out, furiously texting someone else and looking entirely unapproachable. For that guy in your Italian class who recognizes you but has never spoken to you, it takes some platinum-grade balls to saunter up to you and strike up a conversation while you’re like this. So, you know, maybe you should applaud him for his confidence instead of assuming he’s a total sack of semen who just wants to splooge on your face. Maybe he wanted to ask you out on a date? Too bad you just shut him down with that half-assed smile before you turned to your friends and started throwing around some fraternity names. Come on, Cornell guys don’t whine about us, and they’re generally pretty nice to us. Hell, they’re some of the luckiest guys in the world — they’re surrounded by some of the most talented, ambitious beautiful college women in the country … but they know that, I’m sure. </p>

<p>Sisters, Cornell guys don’t suck. Put down your vat of Tasti for 30 seconds and just think about what I’m saying. I’m certainly not the hottest girl at this school, but I have been asked out on dates because I’m friendly, carry myself with confidence and I love to laugh. You can’t blame them for not asking you out if you’re complaining all the time — who wants to be in the (sober) company of a bitter chick? If the Cornell girl whines about how the Cornell guy never asks her on dates, then the Cornell guy will spend his time not asking her out on dates because she’s being a whiny *****. Got that? </p>

<p>So here’s today’s dating tip (something that may land you an actual date and not just some ween): put on your cute earrings and your pretty smile and try being nice, friendly and open-minded. It really is that simple.

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<p>Can I get an amen? haha.</p>

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<p>the girls at cornell are pretty bad for the most part</p>

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<p>^see…that totally disproves the part at the end about how guys generally appreciate the girls. I’ve heard plenty of complaints about the girls here, so I don’t know how that columnist got the impression they didn’t have any.</p>

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<p>yeah, i never really understood that. there are nerdy girls, but there’s also super JAPpy/preppy/pretty girls. maybe you’re looking in the wrong places, blackcheese. that’s not to say there aren’t smart and pretty girls, because there are, but it’s not like cornell is full of fuglies.</p>

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<p>Out of curiosity, what do you all think of the girls/guys selection at Cornell? I saw similar threads on Columbia and I thought it was interesting.</p>

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<p>well, based on enrollment numbers and ratios, there should be 6000+ individuals of each gender at Cornell. it’s nonsensical to expect any one person to be able to generalize.</p>

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<p>I’m a sophomore male at Cornell and here is my view of the girls:</p>

<p>The girl quality at Cornell is honestly pretty bad. Virtually every hot girl joins a sorority, so if you aren’t in a top frat, don’t expect to see them past first semester freshman year. The hottest sororities are DG, Theta, Alpha Phi, Kappa, SDT/Tridelt/Pi Phi (in that order, with the last three tied). And these days, there are even a number of bad looking girls in DG, and it seems as though each sorority’s pledge classes get weaker every year. Kappa, for example, has gone waaaayyyyy downhill the last few years. And then when you consider how small a percentage of the entire university the top three sororities are (since imo DG, Theta, and APhi are the only sororities where the average girl is very good looking), it’s pretty clear that there are an incredibly small number of hot girls at Cornell. </p>

<p>If you’re a guy, this really sucks unless you’re wealthy and preppy enough to get into Alpha Delt or Psi U. If you do make it into a top frat, you’re pretty well off, and the hot girls will flock to you. If you don’t, the girls are going to suck. And yes, I know looks aren’t everything, but I think 90% of guys (and 60% of guys at Cornell) would say that it’s the most important feature. Even if you look past appearance, the personality of most girls at Cornell is pretty poor. There are TONS of nerdy, jappy, and depressed girls here. </p>

<p>So yeah- the girls at Cornell are really bad. You really need to be in one of the top frats to get with them, and even the best sororities have a significant number of bad looking girls. So hopefully you wear boat shoes and sweaters everywhere and went to a New England prep school, because if you didn’t, cute girls at Cornell will be few and far between. </p>

<p>(Keep in mind that this is supposed to be relative to girls at other colleges.)</p>

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<p>^ maybe you’re just bitter cause you didn’t get a bid from alpha delt or psi u :)</p>

<p>whatever. my boyfriend got a bid from alpha delt and he’s perfectly happy with me (and also decided not to pledge). there are tons of pretty girls here. i’d say that most, if not all, of my girl friends are really pretty and smart and nice, and we’re not in sororities. sooo maybe you’re looking in the wrong places. we/they exist</p>

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<p>Since when does a girl being in a sorority require a guy to be in a fraternity to talk to her?</p>

<p>You forget that we also take classes at Cornell? If you see someone you think is cute or interesting, GO UP AND TALK TO THEM.</p>

<p>If you are looking for drunken frat party hookups, of course you will have to be in a top frat to get a “top girl”. Otherwise, grow a pair.</p>

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<p>There are a few cute girls who aren’t in sororities. They’re definitely out there.</p>

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<p>when i read this last night i thought the purpose of this thread was opposite of what its turned out to be.</p>

<p>i think that the brutal opinions before me are unfortunately pretty true. most cornell girls are pretty stuck up regardless of appearance. and most of them are kinda lacking in appearance, which makes them even less attractive as people.</p>

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<p>Somni, when you say stuck up, do you mean not easy or don’t even talk to me you freak? Just curious :slight_smile: I’m assuming this is coming from a guy, so I had to ask.</p>

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<p>hahah did you guys see yahoo frontpage news today about one of Cornell’s sororities?
[Mean-girl</a> fashion and beauty rules at Cornell sorority: No ‘mustaches’ or ‘muffin tops’ - Fashion + Beauty on Shine](<a href=“http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/mean-girl-fashion-and-beauty-rules-at-cornell-sorority-no-mustaches-or-muffin-tops-636982/]Mean-girl”>http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/mean-girl-fashion-and-beauty-rules-at-cornell-sorority-no-mustaches-or-muffin-tops-636982/)</p>

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<p>i meant arrogant not prude. just from talking to some, i could tell they were full of themselves. maybe i shouldnt let a few ruin my idea of all. sororities kinda ruin girls that way but whatever</p>

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<p>I kind of have to agree that the girls here overrate themselves. I mean when I look for a girl I want a girl who passes the “kind of cute” test, and then I look at her personality (how fun is she, does she like to drink, does she laugh at my jokes, do we have similar interests). I am not looking for a babe. I am an extremely social guy and I have met a ton of girls and here is my general conclusion. There are lookers in and out of sororities. All girls think they are hotter than they actually are and therefore are more prone to act like **<strong><em>es. The author herself even talks about how she has been a total </em></strong> to a number of guys. Additionally, it seems like the nice girls do not want to have fun. They are stuck in their comfort zone and do not want to go out and try new things (like seeing “bound for glory”, trying out a new food at an ethnic restaurant or going to a sketchy shop in the commons). On the other hand, the fun girls are all quite *****y. I would really love a girl who is nice and fun, and there are very few of the both here. BUT, if you are a prefrosh girl keep in mind that you go up 2 points once you get on campus. IE, 4’s become 6’s, 7’s become 9’s, and 10’s become heidi klum.</p>

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There are very few but they do exist. I’ve been in relationships with a couple.

No why would you tell them this? You’re only enabling this idea to continue.</p>

<p>In any case it’s gonna be a rude rude awakening for most Cornell girls when they graduate and go off to NYC, Chicago, LA, etc. with the mentality they have now – i.e. acting b****y like you’re a 10 when in reality you’re a 4 won’t fly in the real world.</p>

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<p>Aw, tboone…
The girls are there. I know quite a few girls on my D’s floor who are exactly as you describe - fun and adventurous. And really nice looking to boot. Just go ask them. They’re already doing what you said you like - the funky shops, movies, etc.<br>
But I also observed a few of the “other” kind of young woman at Collegetown Bagels one morning. Lord, I myself would be intimidated talking to these young women.
But the other ones ARE there - just put yourself out there.</p>

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<p>My son has applied to Cornell. This almost makes me hope he doesn’t get accepted. He is a product of the western U.S. - not at all preppy, very casual (t-shirts, jeans and sanuks), a total jock who happens to be smart. Will he fit in at Cornell?</p>

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<p>anyone will fit in at cornell, seriously. Do not have any qualms about sending your son here. It is not all NY prep school girls by a long shot. I think one of the main problems is that a bunch of the girls here did not get much or any attention from guys in HS for various reasons (they studied a lot, they were the smart girl, they are a lot cuter at cornell then in their hometown) and then once they get here, they have two or three guys vying for their attention. It goes straight to their head. Now that guys like them, it means theyre hot *<strong><em>, or so they think and their personality goes down the *</em></strong>ter. </p>

<p>Note to girls here: just because a few guys like you does not mean you are hot **** by a long shot. Chill out.</p>

<p>and its not that it is intimidating talking to the “other” kind of women, its just not enjoyable. I can carry a conversation with anyone and make them laugh, the problem is if the only topics they laugh at are cosmo girl magazine, sorority gossip and Greys anatomy episodes I am just flat out not interested.</p>