Cornell ILR

<p>Need to know as much info about it as possible. Thanks</p>

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<p>thanks for help =)</p>

<p>absolutely amazing school!</p>

<p>the best way to find out about ILR is to look at the books they have. That's what i did. Attending 'transfer day' was what sealed ILR as my #1 school. The book are great because they not only describe the individual school, but since ILR is also your major, you get a ton of info on that as well (you know, it's like like any other college book describes each individual major in depth). I love ILR because i'll have the opportunity to study economics (what my major would be if i dont go to cornell), law, business, etc. I just dont have to devote 10 classes to just economics, i can study a bunch of other things i find fascinating. Another perk about ILR is what students do after they graduate. Many go to law school and business school (i'm looking at both in my future), and many also get jobs right after college (average starting salary is $45,000 ... not bad for a 21 year old). </p>

<p>What in particular are you interested in studying? What do you want to do after your undergraduate degree? </p>

<p>There's really too much to type out about the school, but i can try to narrow stuff down for you.</p>

<p>Thanks gomestar.</p>

<p>Are you at ILR now? What year?</p>

<p>Mostly interested in the professors, their expertise, how approachable they are, if they or grad students teach classes. Also how ILR being a state funded school fits in with the rest of Cornell. Many people blame it for bringing down Cornell ranking and don't consider it part of ivy.</p>

<p>I am really interested in the program. Probably the most interesting program that I applied to. The others are just business schools. I plan to do either MBA or LS after.</p>

<p>P.S. 45K was not bad for a 21 year old about 7 years ago, but now that is a starting salary for most people coming out of public business school. Though I imagine cornell should be able to open doors down the road.</p>

<p>Thanks gomestar.</p>

<p>Are you at ILR now? What year?</p>

<p>Mostly interested in the professors, their expertise, how approachable they are, if they or grad students teach classes. Also how ILR being a state funded school fits in with the rest of Cornell. Many people blame it for bringing down Cornell ranking and don't consider it part of ivy.</p>

<p>I am really interested in the program. Probably the most interesting program that I applied to. The others are just business schools. I plan to do either MBA or LS after.</p>

<p>P.S. 45K was not bad for a 21 year old about 7 years ago, but now that is a starting salary for most people coming out of public business school. Though I imagine cornell should be able to open doors down the road.</p>

<p>i am not technically an ILR student ... i've done research about the school since my high school years, and i've just applied as a transfer (durring my transfer interview, the dirrector of admissions said I'm the only prospect that knows almost as much about ILR as she does :)). However, one of my classes is taught by Cornell's ILR extention program and is taught by an ILR prof. So far, everybody i've met at ILR has been amazingly helpful and nice. I have not heard anything about TA's teaching the actual classes ... seems like they're most involved in research. </p>

<p>Also, ILR "bringing down cornell's rankings" is just complete bull. It is part of the ivy league (though, that's not the reason i've applied to the school). When i was at transfer day, the administration talked about how ILR students are some of the most involved students at Cornell. Catherwood library is one of the very best workplace-oriented libraries in the entire world (how that would 'bring down' their rankings, i do not know). </p>

<p>I did not want to be a business major (you dont even have to be a business major to go into business, anyways). You should really take the time to look at the types of jobs that the ILR grads are getting. Some people grab really high-end jobs starting around $70-80,000 a year (the $45K i mentioned before was just the average). Others work overseas, and others into the public sector. </p>

<p>For me, the college decision was really important. I've loved the ILR program since high school, but i didnt want any debt when i graduate, so that's why i decided to transfer (i've got enough money to cover a little over two years financial aid free at cornell). The wait-time has given me tons of opportunity to read up on the school so i can maximize my time there if i do get in.</p>

<p>However, one gets the feeling the focus of the major is largely irrelevant in today's society - labor unions and their influence in the United States have diminished remarkably over the last few decades.</p>

<p>I am not sure about the unions. There are less unions now, but they have been rather loud the last few years with all the labor outsourcing. I did hear from an Alumni that Cornell considered changing ILR to HRand that is one of my major concerns. I would not like to get a degree from a school that will not exist in 10 years. Hmmm...
Also union labor is not the only thing you learn in the ilr program. </p>

<p>Vaib, are you at Cornell?</p>

<p>I find the professors extremely approachable in the ILR school. Its very small so they have a better chance to get to know you. Its also likely that you could have the same professor more then once so its easy to build a relationship with them. As far as expertise goes, most of the ILR professors (especially in the level classes) are at the top of their respective fields. The ILR school is at the forefront of labor issues around the world and you defintely get that feeling while there. It can be a little wierd when you are reading a book for a class an the author refers to your teacher as a source. Personally, I love the ILR school but its definitely not for everyone. Just do your research and talk to as many people as possible. By the way im currently an ILR student.</p>

<p>I am a MILR, class of '01. It is a great program (arguably #1 in the nation). It is, simply put, a professional track for aspiring HR professionals. Many ILR students go on to Law School or Consulting firms too. Job placement and Law school placement out of the ILR school are impressive. Starting salaries hover between $35,000 and $65,000 for undergrads ($45,000 on average) and Law school desitinations for ILR students is extremely impressive. </p>

<p>ILR has several majors within it.
-Organization Behavior
-Labor Relations (dealing with unions)
-Staffing
-Compensation
-Human Resource Management
-Labor Law
-Labor Economics</p>

<p>Anyway, feel free to PM me if you have more questions, but I certainly recommend Cornell's ILR school. Excellent program.</p>

<p>Alexandre, my cousin is really torn between applying to the College of Arts and Sciences and the ILR school. He is interested in political science and the social sciences - both options can be explored at either school, with ILR obviously being the more specifically relating to the ILR firled.</p>

<p>Is it a bad idea for someone who is unsure about going into the ILR/HR field to apply to ILR as an undergraduate? I feel ILR should be an option/part of CAS due to this reason.</p>

<p>Vaib, if your cousin is not certain, he should just apply to the CAS. ILR is not really the proper venue to major in any of the Social Sciences. Unless your cousin knows that he wants to study a field related to Labor Relations, he should avoid the college of ILR.</p>

<p>how's the workload? (and how tough is it to get an A?)</p>

<p>Yes, the workload is actually quite heavy. ILR stands for I love reading! LOL As and A-s do not come easy. I would say the ILR school is about as tough as your typical Cornell CAS major.</p>

<p>yeah, if i get in, i plan to work my butt off. The only classes i'm really concerned about are the Statistics classes (for some reason). I've been great at math in the past, but i can see myself getting my butt whooped. </p>

<p>When i was at transfer day, one of the students said it's certainly possible to get a 4.0 ... but, you'd spend your entire day and weekend in the library, and it's more worthwhile to explore everything Cornell has to offer. I'm hoping to find myself working hard, yet takign advantage of everything Cornell has. </p>

<p>We'll see, keeping fingers crossed, i find out the admissions decision within the following week, eek!</p>

<p>I love reading? That is awesome!</p>

<p>On average how many pages a day or a week would you read at ILR?</p>

<p>We can call in on Monday to find out if we got in.</p>

<p>I did not count the pages, but it was a copious amount! LOL I will keep my fingers crossed Neboola. Keep me posted.</p>

<p>has anybody taken the required "entering math exam????" If so, what's it like? I'm debating whether or not i should take calc this summer ... just so i can pass the exam.</p>