<p>I'm about to send out my commitment to Cornell and the ILR, and this had never really occurred to me but I figured hey why not might as well get one last opinion before leaving.</p>
<p>I plan on going into Corporate Business or Law, and am (for now) for sure planning on going to law school. The top places I was accepted were UC Berkeley, Emory, Notre Dame (Mendoza), Cornell (ILR), and UPenn (Wharton).</p>
<p>A few of you may have seen my many posts about ILR on this board, and even some questions asking about various programs, and may wonder why I never mentioned Wharton. The reason is financial aid; Cornell, Notre Dame, and Cal gave me a complete full rides, while Wharton was expecting me to pay over $30,000/year. At this point, I had completely ruled it out.</p>
<p>However, within the last few days a few people have told me that I should consider it, so I'll ask you all just to make sure I'm not crazy: Am I crazy for saying no to Wharton? Personally, I don't think Wharton's worth $30,000 more than Cornell period, much less $35,000 x 4 years. </p>
<p>but it’s not worth 120k more than any of the other schools… especially not when you can go to Cornell or somewhere for free…</p>
<p>If your parents have the money for that, tell them to put it into the stock market for you and by the time you get out of college you’ll be one rich son of a gun.</p>
<p>ILR is a landgrant college within Cornell so it is state subsidized giving NYers a lower cost. Also if you have financial need as defined by FAFSA, you may be eligible for NY state grants. UPenn is private, and uses Profile for need and NYers cannot take TAP funds out of states. So, it is possible to get a much better deal as a NYer from Cornell than from a similar school. </p>
<p>Cornell would have been a good deal for my son even without financial aid due to the lower sticker price for him at some of the schools there.</p>
<p>This is coming from a student who went to NYU, drowned in literally $50,000/yr debt for a while, and then switched over to ILR. Financially, academically, and career-wise it was the best decision I ever made. Not only am I about to graduate debt free, I landed a sweet internship at Goldman Sachs, and I never thought about going to law school, but with so many kids here applying to law school, and after taking some law classes at ILR here myself, I might just do it anyway. It’s definitely great prep for law school considering you can also take classes at Cornell Law as an undergrad, something that is rarely allowed at other schools; I’m unsure of whether or not Penn allows that.</p>
<p>Wharton has great business connections and solid academics, but given your situation and having experienced the whole on-campus recruiting business cycles with internships with relative ease, I would hands down recommend ILR.</p>
<p>PM me if you have any questions and best of luck with your decision.</p>
<p>As much as it pains me to say this, if UPenn gives you a free-ride, then you should probably take it, unless you felt you would have a better experience at Cornell.</p>
<p>^^ Lol if Wharton had given me a full ride then this would be a way different discussion, but right now I’m looking at paying $30k/year more there than Cornell…</p>
<p>Another thing to consider are the respective environments. I have heard Wharton is rather cutthroat and there can be backstab situations. ILR, while competitive, is very supportive. In addition, I would say that ILR would simply provide so many more options if you were to change your interests. In addition, the ILR degree would be more unique and standout more than the dime a dozen business management type.</p>
<p>current ILRies should post what courses they’ve taken and what specialization they’re doing in ILR…i’m doing an ILR major with focus on Intl/Comparative Labor and an International Relations minor as well as a Law and Society Minor…i pretty much have a business minor as well </p>
<p>ILR Colloquium: Introduction to the ILR School
Introduction to Organizational Behavior
Introduction to U.S. Labor History
Introductory Microeconomics
Elective (International Relations)</p>
<p>First-Year Writing Seminar
Introductory Macroeconomics
Course in Science and Technology (Zoology(CC))
Elective (Intro Accounting, Business Law(both at CC))</p>
<p>Introductory Statistics
Labor and Employment Law
Human Resource Management
Western Intellectual Tradition (W.Civ Post 1500)
Elective (Business Principles(CC))</p>
<p>Collective Bargaining
Cultural Perspectives (Anthropology Comparison of Cultures)
Elective (Technical Writing(CC))</p>
<p>Comparative Labor Elective (Work, Capital and Labor in Global Economy(my fav))
French 121
French 122
French 123
SPAN 214
Intro to Disability Studies
ILR Elective (Computer Basics)
Intro to Peace Studies
Intro to Govt I (CC)</p>
<p>note: courses marked (CC) i took at community college while i was on leave from cornell…i could have done the same courses at cornell if i wanted to…</p>
<p>how are the financial aid packages so different, if you qualified for basically a full ride at cornell(land grant doesn’t matter in this case since full ride means your efc was 0) you should have qualified for it or at least a near full ride at penn too, doesn’t really make sense unless they messed up.</p>