UCLA: 8K grants, 22k loans, 7k parents contribution
Case Western Reserve University: 22K grants, 12k loans, 6k parent s contribution
Cornell: 40k parents contribution
My parents income: about $50,000
If you’re going to major in biomed (or bio related)engineering,
where would you go?
<p>Dang dude they are all good. Tough One.</p>
<p>GO TO CASE. 22K in grants?! dammn. and your parents pay the least for a good education.</p>
<p>You probably know what I think...</p>
<p>oh, and you take out the least loans. ..but ohio weather's a biatch. i guess it just depends on which school is more your type? visit!</p>
<p>Well, I guess i'll have to visit. I just want to know if Cornell and UCLA are worth spending that much more money than CWRU.
I know CWRU has very good biomed engr program, but I might change major later...so..that's also one of my considerations.</p>
<p>i go to cwru, and honestly, if you care at all about the college experience DO NOT GO HERE.</p>
<p>cleveland is the worst city on the planet.</p>
<p>go to UCLA, it's so much better than here.</p>
<p>unless you dont care about having a life.
comming to CWRU was the biggest mistake of my life</p>
<p>jonmitz, can you elaborate more on why CWRU is "the biggest mistake of your life"</p>
<p>smileppl, what do you intend to do with your bio(related) engineering degree? perhaps that could help us better answer your question</p>
<p>To add my two cents - Case is a great school. The school location is great, but Cleveland is cold during the winter - can't argue with that. We know lots of people that go to Case and they love it. They do take academics seriously, but I suppose that the other schools you mentioned do too. There are plenty of things to do so you don't have to worry about that. Remember that jonmitz may not be having a good experience, but that doesn't mean that everyone is having the same experience as him. I would suspect that some of the areas of study are quite intense, but my feeling is that no matter where you go the competition will be stiff. My son will be going there next year and he can't wait. I would also suggest visiting the campus if you haven't done so (or again even if you have). Good luck in your decision, but to have as little debt as possible is the way to go!</p>
<p>Why would Cornell be $40K when your paent contribution is so low at the other schools. Cornell is need blind. </p>
<p>Consider that UCLA will probably take 5 years to graduate, that's a lot of loans for a good but not great undergrad education. </p>
<p>The UC for your area is UCSD. Go to Case.</p>
<p>i've said enough, i hate this school. and i hate cleveland, the weather isnt too bad, but cleveland is such a boring city.</p>
<p>yes, people do seem to like it, but i dont know many people who do, personally.</p>
<p>its up to you, but i'd still go to UCLA, and everyone i've talked to would go to california without a second thought (thats where im tranferring, many peopole make a joke if they could "go with me?")</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>and btw, there is a lot more alcohol on this campus than you're going to hear about. and no, people ARE going to bother you about it. i dont drink, people bother me about it all the time. i dont care, im jjust annoyed that all the tourguides say there is not a lot of alcohol and no pressure. its a lie.</p>
<p>lots of students here seem to think they need to make up for all the goody-goodyness they had in high school by drinking a lot in college and doing drugs (and i've met about 20 people who smoke pot)
i know 2 people who've been arrested for selling pot</p>
<p>seriously, cleveland sucks. you ask anyone. cleveland is the poorest city in america (not including little southern redneck cities).</p>
<p>let me tell you what there is to do in cleveland:
1. get mugged if you walk off campus
2. get your car stolen (2 of my friends have had their car's stolen or destroyed)
3. eat</p>
<p>thats about it. unless you actually find someone who wants to go do something, which is rare.
there's nothing fun i ever do off campus (or on campus).
the only fun i have is in my cramped dorm room (they are small compared to the ones i've stayed at UC Berkley, UC Santa Cruz and Stanford over summer camp)</p>
<p>this is what i think IS good about the school:
1a. we have fiber optic internet
1b. we have an awesome networking program, where you can download just about any movie or song from the other students, really fast (like 20-30 mbps)
3. most of the freshmen teachers are good (that i've had), excluding the physics department</p>
<p>seriously, if you want to come here, make damn sure all you want to do is study.</p>
<p>i'm at college to have fun, not to study all day and every day.
case is going to be as good at ucla is going to be as good as cornell for biomedical engineering.
you guys get way too hung up on ratings. that little jump from #5 to #4 isnt going to make a difference. all that matters is how good you do in college</p>
<p>i know other people who also question why they came here, and i, once again, seriously asked everyone on my floor if they liked this school and i didnt get a a single yes.</p>
<p>i'm not lieing to you
well, in summary, if i was in your position i would chose UCLA</p>
<p>i just woke up, so sorry if it sounded a little strange</p>
<p>edit: im not going to say anymore.</p>
<p>Thankyou, jonmitz and mominsearch, for your advice:) </p>
<p>zagat: Actually, I haven't received any financial aid info yet (that's my worst case scenario).</p>
<p>Kfc4u, I want to work in medical-related field, but I'm not sure yet what I exactly want to do for the rest of my life. That's why I'm hesitant to choose Case. I know that Case has an excellent Biomed engr program, but I want to go to a school that is strong in most majors.</p>
<p>go to cornell , its the best one for bio</p>
<p>The UC parent contribution reflects the efc, Case could be merit. Anyway, there's no way Cornell could ask for more than the efc from parents, and their loan is bound to be less than the UCs. Go to Cornell.</p>
<p>Oh, really? I don't know anything about financial aid..but Cornell ccould give me less grant and more loan than UCLA, can't they? (like...$1000 grant and $35000 loan?)</p>
<p>Well, "Case Grant-in-Aid" was $22k..does that mean it's merit?</p>
<p>Oh, also...
If I add two more colleges to the list,
UC San Diego: 7K grant, 23K loans, 6K parents contribution
UC Davis: grant+loans = 12k (don't know the break down yet)
WOuld that make my choice different?</p>
<p>UC San Diego - great location (SoCal), highly ranked Biomed program.</p>
<p>As an out of state student, the UCs will count the same income and assets the UCs do to come up with a parent contribution. As you see the numbers for LA and SD were close.</p>
<p>At better colleges with higher endowments, the amount of loans is almost certain to be less than what the UCs want you to take. Simply, the schools have more money for grants. Some top schools ask for no student loans (Princeton, Brown) and many cap them at a fairly low figure, i.e. no more than a total of $15K over 4 years. As you can see, the UCs have no cap and kids often end up with much larger debt than had they gone to a private college costing twice as much. Cornell will definitely be less loans.</p>
<p>All that said, UCSD is awesome for bioengineering. It sits in the heart of the fastest growing biotech area and has amazing links to that community. It would be hard to beat outside of Duke and JHU for bioengineering.</p>
<p>Smileppl, UCLA offers two different Biology-related Engineering majors: Electrical Engineering - Biomedical Engineering option, and straight Bioengineering. Which major were you admitted to / considering to apply for?</p>
<p>Thank you, zagat. That's really great news for me:)
I know that UCSD and Case offer excellent biomed engr programs. But IF Cornell offers me a similar financial aid package, I don't know how i will persuade my parents for UCSD or Case over Cornell (I'm 100% asian)</p>
<p>Just wondering..but what if I want to major other than bioengineering? Then should Cornell be my def choice?</p>
<p>IMO, yes. Only bioengineering at UCSD would give me pause about choosing any of the other schools. Cornell is just in a different league. Some will argue that UCLA is a top choice also, but for undergrad I don't agree. Classes are too big, takes too long to graduate, no money for many of the extras Cornell has in spades.</p>
<p>I think you're into Cornell if you got UCSD bioengineering out of State. Have you visited?</p>