<p>I put this on the Cornell board, so I figured that i'd see what you guys think as well...
Although this probably seems like an obvious choice for most people on this thread, the decision is a little more difficult for me. I wanted to do either engineering or business, so I applied to both engineering and business schools. NYU has one of the top 5 business schools in the nation, and Cornell has an engineering school that is about the same in it's field. What swayed my decision to do business is the fact that there is so much room to move up in that field. In engineering even though the starting salaries are a little higher than business, I hear that you pretty much get stuck at 100k. At NYU, though, their MBA graduates (you need about 2 years experience before you go for an MBA) make an average of around 140k with bonuses. I honestly couldn't believe it when people started telling me that engineering students even from Cornell are really limited in their career prospects. Could anyone please share what they think of this statement? I really would like to attend Cornell, but the fear about having less opportunity in the future is what is really holding me back.</p>
<p>I was in the same boat. I eventually chose NYU Stern over UCLA/UVA engineering based on that reasoning. I would think that job placement would also be a lot easier being that the school is in new york city.</p>
<p>you seem to be swaying towards Stern. Everything you said above is true, business degree does provide numerous opportunities to move up the ladder. it really depends on where your interest lies? engineering or finance? both schools you are going to be putting in a lot of work, but in the end you will be rewarded more generously for your effort at Stern than at Cornell. While at Cornell with a 3.5(difficult to get) you will get a $60-70k starting while at Stern sky is the limit to how much you can make. People come out making 200K a year including bonuses their first year out. If i-banking is your interest, you should know that Stern produces the more bankers than anyother school in the US including all the ivies and Wharton. you will have to work hard in both school but the way I see it, the end reward is much sweeter with a Stern degree. Engineering too has its numerous advantages. many say that engineers are very analytical and sharp, but the same can be said of a Stern finance major, you really have to analytical, sharp and apply your knowledge, Overall I would pick Stern, because I'd much rather be paid handsomely for the work I put in. good luck!</p>
<p>IMO, it's a no-brainer, NYU</p>
<p>especially for Business/Law and Films majors</p>
<p>Why do you say film? Film is a tenous and notoriously cut throat industry that historically tries to keep people out.</p>
<p>The starting salaries are low for menial jobs and only get impressive if one has a lucky break. </p>
<p>Toss into that about $120,000 in debt to start off with and you're really starting to lose me.</p>
<p>Why is it a no brainer to choose NYU for film?</p>
<p>Because NYU has one of the top film programs in the US (competing only with USC). The internship programs are amazing, so if you were going to succeed at film anywhere it would either be in NYC or LA. I wouldn't say it's necessarily a no-brainer to choose NYU for film, but it should either be that or USC. Which one just depends on the type of program you want, and the type of environment you're looking for. The NYU name is also prestigious, and should open doors when it's otherwise a tie for a job/internship between you and someone from another not as well known school.</p>
<p>Now, if you're just talking about film in general, that is, of course, up to the individual, and is a major that should only be pursued if you are seriously dedicated, for all of the reasons you've listed. But if you are, NYU or USC would definitely be the best options. If you have to go into that much debt, you may not think it's worth it because it doesn't get paid back as quickly as a business or law graduate, but it does provide the best education and internship opportunities (again, or USC)</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, are you looking at NYU? Looking at majoring in film? (And where are you from? again, just curious)</p>
<p>More to follow... </p>
<p>NYU film is just a simply world-class. For example, Spike Lee was invited for seminar, he also established an competition, "SPIKE LEE FILM CONTEST". Ang Lee (Yes, that Ang Lee of Broke back Mountain, Crouching Tiger... Icestroms, and disappointing HULK, ) studied at NYU.</p>
<p>And and... Guess What!! Woody Allen (yes WOODY ALLEN of Manhattan, Hannah and her Sisters....) used to teach at NYU. All those great actors, directors are often invited at NYU including Scorses, Copolla. Deniro... the list goes on and one</p>
<p>Need I say more??</p>
<p>i really dont even SEE USC as in competition for film...Tisch, to me, is the end-all be all. (HOW MANY Academy Award winners came out of NYU? Check out Wiki for a list of notables.) if youre talented enough to be making the 7-figure incomes in a field like this, the best shot you have is at Tisch. Yes, until you make it 'big' or 'medium' you'll be paying out the nose for those lonas--but if oyu think youre good enough to make it, do it! I chose NYU over a Univ. that is pretty strong in English, but then i realized that NYU and their creative writing programs are some of the best in the world. Who knows, i may end up as a teacher or another comparable job and have earned my degree for 100K's less--but then, i'll never have quite the same opportunity to be the next great American writer.</p>
<p>anyway this is supposed to be about engineering. Normally i would say Cornell, even tho i loooove NYU. Somehow i think Cornell will probably cover your financial aid better--if thats not an issue--go where you love and where you think you will learn the most and lay a better foundation for your career.</p>
<p>Thanks for you post legionaire. I think one of the major things that was holding me back is that I am valedictorian at my school, and there are 3 other kids going to Stern from my school. I was just thinking that I'm ending up at the same school as kids with SATS that are 200 points lower and class ranks of 30ish while I worked so hard for that #1. I kept thinking that it would be a waste not to go to Cornell engineering because it is slightly harder to get accepted into, but I guess the waste would really be not getting as much of a reward for all of my work in college.</p>
<p>Sorry. Tisch is simply THE BEST film/arts school ever. Period. film may be difficult to break into if you go to some state school or whatever, but Tisch is a whole new story. It's definitely the 'harvard' of artsy-film majors.</p>
<p>Hey, littlebusrider8, I actually felt the same way. I was a little startled that this other kid from my school with SATs/GPA significantly lower than mine is going to Stern. But then, I did get scholars with 10k and they got regular. </p>
<p>Btw, if you are good at stern you should graduate making about 90-100k including bonuses.</p>
<p>I got scholars w/ 20k. I haven't heard of anyone from Stern getting 25k, I think its CAS only??? But I have really high need so if i didn't get taht much from stern there is no way I would have been able to go.</p>
<p>Oh. Well, come to Stern! We'll go on scholars trips together. I was really happy with my 10k because my expected family contribution was like...46k, lol.</p>
<p>littlebusrider-20k is significant. it really seems like they want you to come</p>
<p>well they did send me a baseball cap lol</p>
<p>Stern Curve Ftl</p>
<p>what GoldPlatinum?</p>