<p>If a 98-99 percentile SAT is not stellar then I'm not sure what is anymore.</p>
<p>Wow patlees, you have a 3.87. Congrats. I would have a 4.2 if I hadn't decided to take an advanced philosophy class first semester.
2300 doesn't impress me at all, it just means you paid $3000 for a prep course. Once you get to a 3.8 GPA or 2200+, there are no more distinctions. Also, you know as well as I do that admissions are a crap shoot, which is why I'm re-applying. There are kids at HYP who have worse stats than me, and I know that I have a good chance at getting in.</p>
<p>Anyway, if college isn't a chance to garner prestige for a better life, what is it? As I have said and continue to maintain, you can get the same education from a textbook, without the dumb kids asking questions.</p>
<p>His gpa and SATs, while good, are not stellar in standards of Harvard, Yale, or MIT. Last year's Harvard admit rate for transfers was 3.6%. I highly doubt that someone with 3.8 gpa and that sat score will beat bunch of others with 4.0s + 2300+s + stellar ecs. My point is that this dude is highly mistaken to fool himself with the belief that he is far "superior" than others at Cornell.</p>
<p>Wow, are you trying to make an ass out of yourself?!? </p>
<p>It's funny that you're saying all of this on an anonymous forum. It seems to me that if you said any of this without the mask, your beloved college prestige would crumble to pieces. Harvard or Podunk U, no one likes a pretentious jerk.</p>
<p>Patlees, you're wrong statistically. I don't think there's anything more for me to say. It's OK to be a d-bag anonymously. We would probably get along in real life.</p>
<p>Muerte - I, too, might have had higher gpa as Freshmen had I not taken intermediate Microeconomics and multivariable Calculus my first semester. I don't know if u knew this, but my math class this past semester was one of the most rigorous and mind-challenging classes I've taken so far. So, I suggest u take some more rigorous courses in order to be more challenged, if that is what u seek.</p>
<p>Haha, I hadn't even read the end of your post. I seriously am a nice/caring/compassionate human being in real life. I just see no reason to be so on an anonymous forum.</p>
<p>Muerte- I partially understand where you are coming from. I certainly understand your high expectations for yourself, especially coming from your family. My dad is Harvard Law alum, and he too, expected me to go to Harvard. I did my best and still got rejected last year from Harvard and Yale. Hey, what more can you do? But, life is life and Cornell I don't think is a bad school by any means. Hope that you will begin to have a more positive outlook in your life even if the college admission might not work out in the end.</p>
<p>OK - I apologize to everyone for my d-baggery, I will attempt to integrate myself into the online community and tone down my contentious ways. I understand that we are all pretty smart, I no more than anyone else on this forum. I do believe that many people at Cornell are not. There are, of course, a large number of people that ARE highly talented. Hopefully I can prove myself worthy of their company. Etc.
Love,
Muerteapablo
PS - who the hell calls me "muertea", it's a phrase in spanish - muerte a pablo . You're killing me here.</p>
<p>oh man... just when it was getting funny. don't apologize. you crack me up. i agree with you man. most Cornell students need an occasional reality check.</p>
<p>well...i can't see this anymore</p>
<p>muerteapablo, if you want to transfer to Yale or Harvard, just do it for yourself , please.</p>
<p>Most other Cornell students find Cornell one of the best in the world
and giving them pride and prestige</p>
<p>If you want the name 'Yale' and 'Harvard' undergraduate, it's your own choice</p>
<p>Honestly, I am an international. </p>
<p>I heard American students are far maturer in thinking about 'college education' and the prestige stuff. </p>
<p>I heard they don't give such a schizophrenic concern on the rank difference
or 'name-value' stuff between Cornell and HYPS(especially Harvard)</p>
<p>I'm a bit disappointed..</p>
<p>worst ivy? omg..</p>
<p>While I have the feeling that the OP is an elitist douchebag, he does have a point in some regard. If you come here looking for synergy in the sciences, especially engineering, you should love it. If you come here looking for synergy in other areas (liberal arts specifically), you may have too look a bit harder. </p>
<p>There seems to be a lack of visionary ambition here at times. Sure, you have the government majors (I'm a Gov major) who want to go to Harvard law and go corporate, raking in big figures, but the types that want to take the road less traveled with a "change the world" mindset are less common. All schools have mercenaries and visionaries, it just seems like students at Cornell are (as a whole) more content to be the former than I imagine students are at, say, Harvard or Yale. The only exception to this could be the Hotel School, ironically...everyone there believes they're going to open up their own chain of hotels or resorts.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there is another (perhaps smaller) part of the Cornell student body that is as stimulating and passionate as one could ask for.</p>
<p><em>edit</em>
I was pretty tired when I typed that, and I think it's a bit closer to the rant side of the spectrum than it is to coherent thought, but I hope it's clear.</p>
<p>alright, maybe the claim's right on that aspect. </p>
<p>what's not changing is the prestige, diversity, great name value, broad opportunity and the uniqueness of Cornell.</p>
<p>Cornell is the best not only in Hotel but also in the study of labor relations, agriculture, engineering, etc.</p>
<p>That alone already distinguishes Cornell from the values and powers of Harvard and Yale. I respect their strength and even admire them. But please don't try to put Cornell into the meaningless category of ranking or one particular aspect of each college's characteristics.</p>
<p>I agree with ihaveabunni, this was gettign really fun. You should ahve continued to argue. I also believe that on an anonymous forum it's basically set up to be a jerk at times. It's debate that's all. In real life im sure people aren't what they are on boards. As for cornell being the worst ivy....if that is the case, i would love to be able to tell people i go to the worst ivy league school in america. I think that has a certain ring to it actually. It's like
non-pretentious bragging.</p>
<p>I didn't read everything in this thread, so maybe it has been posted already.
I also know that rankings don't say that much, but since we're talking about rankings:</p>
<p>USNews:
1 Princeton 2 Harvard 3 Yale 5 UPenn 9 Columbia 11 Dartmouth 12 Cornell 14 Brown</p>
<p>According to USNews, Brown is the "weakest Ivy".</p>
<p>shouldn't be based on acceptance rate. Base it on your reaction to the school. How does it suit your personality, your majors. Is it going to make you happy? I mean, if you are uncomfortable around yale kids or mit kids, but right at home with cornell kids then cornell is the place for you. Granted that you're going to be accepted.</p>
<p>please, no more posts in this worthless thread</p>
<p>I actually have to wholeheartedly agree with meurteapablo. I was utterly appalled at the ubiquity of, let's face it, dumb kids at Cornell. Each time I go to office hours, I'm amazed at how ridiculously lost most of the students are. I think he's quite right in stating that only about 1/4 of the students here are worthy of the Ivy moniker, most of them being foreign. Quite simply, the top US students are attending HYP, not Cornell. Cornell is a great school with an international name (way above Brown and Dartmouth, so it's nowhere near the worst Ivy), but it doesn't have that zing that HYP has. </p>
<p>Don't get me wrong: The education Cornell offers is fantastic and the professors are brilliant. But in my mind, many of the students here reek of overachieving public high schoolers who are unable to undertake such a demanding curriculum. </p>
<p>If you want my qualifications: I went to a high school ranked in the top 40. I graduated last May from the College of engineering with over a 4.0 GPA and was around the top 3% in the engineering college overall. Oh yea I have a first author publication as well.</p>
<p>Muerte, I find that you are one of few people at Cornell that feel this way. Personally, I am a senior and will be graduating in a few months and Cornell has been an experience and a half for me. To go out and call it the worst ivy is absolutely ridiculous. If you knew one thing about Cornell you would know that it is a research institution, obviously it does not put its primary focus on liberal arts, but more on the sciences. If you want to go attend a college where grade inflation is a common practice then by all means go. If you honestly feel that you are truly a superior knowledge bearing student who is so much better than all of the students here then please we welcome you to leave. It's funny I have not heard such self-praising bs since I have been here at Cornell, it must be because Cornell is good at weeding out those who feel they are better than everyone else. Btw, if you went to such a good high school why wouldn't they offer AP English. And yeah I went to a public school...</p>