<p>Is it true if you're a NYS resident u still end up paying more for tuition if you're in one of the contract colleges and eligible for fin aid than you would at one of the endowed colleges?
for example... if youre an NYS resident with an EFC of 0... would you end up paying more for one of the contract colleges or for one of the private colleges?</p>
<p>IF you attend one of cornell's land grant schools (ALS,ILR or HE) as a NYS resident, these schools are considerably less than if you were to attend the endowed schools (Cost of attendance at the endowed schools are: 45877 vs. $31,137)</p>
<p>All undgrad schools at Cornell require the same FA information (FAFSA & CSS profile) and give aid based on demonstrated need.</p>
<p>FOr Low income students, if you are a NYS resident, you can also apply to EOP and/or HEOP (you would probably get a really good FA package)</p>
<p>EOP/HEOP
Unlike most other institutions, Cornell University has the advantage of offering both: EOP and HEOP programs; administered through the State Programs Office (SPO). The Educational Opportunity Program (EOP) and the Higher Education Opportunity Program (HEOP) give prospective students who have the ability to succeed academically, but not the regular requirements for admission (due to a variety of circumstances in previous education and in economic resources), the opportunity to pursue a Bachelor Degree at Cornell.</p>
<p>The State Programs Office is primarily responsible for counseling and advising on academic planning, personal/social matters, financial aid, and money management to students enrolled in EOP and HEOP. We work closely with the seven undergraduate colleges and the Learning Strategies Center (LSC) to provide tutoring and additional assistance required for the successful graduation of EOP and HEOP students.</p>
<p>EOP/HEOP
The Education Opportunity Program corresponds to the contract colleges: the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences; the College of Human Ecology; and the School of Industrial and Labor Relations. The Higher Education Opportunity Program corresponds to the endowed colleges: the College of Arts and Sciences; the College of Architecture, Art, and Planning; the College of Engineering; and the School of Hotel Administration.</p>
<p>Both EOP and HEOP are New York State programs for New York State residents pursuing a college education, who possess neither the traditional academic profile, nor the financial means to afford college, but the potential for success in a competitive academic environment. Students accepted under the H/EOP programs will receive academic and financial counseling, as well as a financial aid package to afford their education; however they are also expected to contribute to their own education after their Sophomore year. </p>
<p><a href="http://omea.cornell.edu/state-programs/%5B/url%5D">http://omea.cornell.edu/state-programs/</a></p>
<p>hope this helps</p>
<p>Sybbie, as always, has great info. I just want to add that Cornell does provide 100% of need defined by PROFILE not FAFSA. Your EFC determined government funds that are available, but to get college money, you have to go an extra step, as is the case with most schools that guarantee to provide 100% of need.</p>
<p>When we met with a financial aid counselor it seemed to be that if a NYS resident did not attend a contract college then the grant would be increased to reflect that. EFC and loan amounts would remain much the same.</p>
<p>what is the extra step cpt? please elaborate...
so bluejay, you are saying that in the end both schools would be the same price if you have an EFC of 0, for example?
thanks</p>
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<p>What bluejay and everyone else is saying is:</p>
<p>All Cornell schools will meet 100% of your demonstrated need</p>
<p>All Cornell schools use the FAFSA in addition to the CSS profile to determine what your need is.</p>
<p>Having a "0" EFC fafsa many not necessarily translate to a "0" EFC once the school evaluates the information from the CSS profile</p>
<p>It will be the college not you who determines how much you need</p>
<p>It will be the college who determines how that need will be packaged</p>
<p>Since Cornell has no low income initiatives in place where extremely low income students have no loans as part of their FA package you will have loans (quite a few of them) in your FA package.</p>
<p>S will be attending cornell this August and we were surprised by the financial aid package.S will graduate with loans exceeding 80,000 and with the rise in expected student earnings he is probably closer to 90,000. S is not at all concerned and feels it is the price to pay for a top notch education. I am as proud of my son for his resourcefulness and his networking skills as I am of his achievements to date. Based on what I have seen him do I am as confident as he is that he can handle these loans. I must add that I have seen many kids go off to college and never work a job and the results were varied,some were appreciative while others were just plain spoiled brats. Many parents might be surprised by WHAT YOUR CHILD IS MADE OF if they know their education is a precious gift that they must work for.</p>