Course Questions For Summer 2009

<p>jerseyshoremom,</p>

<p>Okay ... the degree requirements are your d's gen eds that she'll have to complete. Everyone's will be similar, but not quite the same, depending on what their intended major is going to be. Depending on what credits your daughter might be bringing in with her, i.e. AP, CLEP, or IB credits, this will determine which of these gen eds she has left to complete. So ... you first want to match up what you might have credit for to determine what she'll still have to take as far as her gen eds. If she's not brining in any credit, her first two years at UCF will be working towards finishing these off. Make sure she takes all the test assessments she has to take, i.e. the algebra assessment, etc. This way she'll know where she places for math. And, as she's starting summer b, she'll probably take two classes. Pick classes that will fit her gen ed degree requirements for managment, and yes, you can look at the "sample freshman schedule" to give you an idea of how they might set you up. Hope this helps ...</p>

<p>zebes</p>

<p>I highly recommend that your daughter attempt the English composition with essay CLEP (see page one of this thread). It is one of the easier cleps and if she passes with a 50 (it is graded 20-80) then she can skip ENC 1101 and go right to 1102! If you guys don't want to deal with that though, I suggest she take ENC 1101 for summer B along with one of her historical/cultural foundation geneds....LIKE FIL1000 (film survey...very easy, watch films and write about them) OR AMH 2010 US History 1492-1877(just make sure that she signs up for an easier profs). </p>

<p>...if you PM me with your email I will send you a list that my D and I compiled of the ratings that students have given certain profs. Just let me know which gen ed classes she is considering and if we researched it, I will send you our info.</p>

<p>Thank you, seiclan for offering to send me info. When we figure this out, I will let you know.</p>

<p>How do you know what courses are under the Cult/Hist Found Seq. 1?</p>

<p>Also, if it is a requirement that Florida students must take 9 credit hours over the summer, how can D swing a 3 credit hour course over the next 3 summers (since she'll take 6 this summer)? Would she be expected to stay near campus for another summer just to take 1 course?</p>

<p>Click on this link to the listing of the Gen eds:</p>

<p>University</a> of Central Florida 2008-2009 Undergraduate Catalog - Courses</p>

<p>You will see that historical/cultural foundations has a group 1 and group 2. She will need to take one from group one, one from group two and a third of her choice...from either 1 or 2. My D took the FIL 1000 ...it is perfect for summer B. This summer it is given Mondays and Wednesdays from 3-5 something with Jesse Wolfe. He is rated highly. </p>

<p>You should really have her try the clep test since if she passes, she gets 3 credits toward her summer requirement automatically. Then, after her six credits this summer, she will be DONE with the summer requirement. Of course if she comes into UCF with any AP credit...that also gets applied to the summer requirement. My daughter had taken ap Psychology and passed the test plus one clep test so she came into UCF with 6 credits toward her nine summer req. She did 6 over the summer anyhow though. Am I clear? If not, just ask.</p>

<p>You can view the schedules online at my.ucf.edu... Scroll down and click on the hyperlink under Helpful resources: Class Schedule and Course Catalog Search</p>

<p>Thanks all! There is alot to absurb here. I'll print out and show D and let you know if I have any questions.</p>

<p>Yes, seiclan, I'm going to look into CLEP. Thanks.</p>

<p>It appears that Film Study is now an almost 4 hour class for summer?</p>

<p>B001-LEC FIL 1000 CINEMA SURVEY
MoWe 12:00PM - 3:50PM CSB 0101 Jesse Wolfe 6/29/2009 - 8/7/2009 </p>

<p>ok I see, and Enjoyment of Music Class is almost 2 hours per day, 4 days a week:
MoTuWeTh 12:00PM - 1:50PM COMM 0101 Scott Warfield 6/29/2009 - 8/7/2009 </p>

<p>So Film Study this Summer B will be 2 4-hour classes. Do you suggest a 4 hour class twice a week or 4 2-hour classes for a Summer freshman? In addition, she'll take and ENC class which is 4 2-hour classes per week.</p>

<p>Also, any feedback regarding the Enjoyment of Music class?</p>

<p>The summer classes all meet for the same amount of time each week (if they are the same amount of credits...4 credit classes meet for longer). I recommend that your D take ENC and FIL 1000. The film class needs to be longer to accomodate the screening of films, which can run 3 hours, but it is only twice a week. The kids who took it last summer enjoyed it more than the Enjoyment of Music kids (my daughter's opinion). The most important thing is the professor. He/she can make or break a class. A subject can be stimulating or boring depending upon who teaches it. Check out the rate my professors website once you determine which classes (and who is teaching them) that your D is interested in. When you click on the professors name, you will be able to read what past student's have said about the professor and the class. IF your daughter takes and passes ENC 1101 thru CLEP, she will need to take ENC 1102. If you the results aren't back in time (it takes about a month to 6 weeks for the essay to be graded) you should NOT have her take ENC during summer!!!! Instead have her do history and something else. </p>

<p>Warfield didn't teach enjoyment of Music last summer so I don't have a rating for him.</p>

<p>A little lesson on "rate my professors". The professors are rated on a scale of 1-5, 5 being highest. Most important are two things, how good a teacher the professor is (level of interest) and how difficult it is to do well in the class (Level of Ease). </p>

<p>On these parameters, Scott Warfield is rated 3.3 and 2.5 respectively.
Note; My daughter tries to not take professors who are rated lower than 3.3 ish on both parameters (although sometimes it is unavoidable due to subject matter or the availability/times of the classes). A 2.5 rating in Easiness means the professor does not give out many high grades/is difficult. </p>

<p>Here is a sample (from the website) of what past students have said about this professor:</p>

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A bit pompous but knows what he's talking about. Unfortunately, what he's talking about is excruciatingly BORING!!!!
Great teacher! His tests were essay-type questions that required common sense and just showing up to class to answer. He knows what he's talking about. He may get a little boring but he's still a pretty nifty teacher. I'd recommend him, but not if you don't like writing tests, since there's no multiple choice.
This class was a waste of time. He talks too much and very boring class. if you know about music then take this professor, but it not don't take. Tests are long and you could probably get a C without the books. The study guides are kind of helpful
This man is the biggest JERK in the world! DO NOT TAKE THIS CLASS!!! He is boring as watching paint dry and he'll falsely accuse u of cheating if you're not careful. The class is a joke and you don't have to go to class to get an A.

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<p>A word of caution, your daughter has lots of choices for summer B, have her pick classes and professors that she can do WELL in so that she starts college with a higher GPA and thus has some breathing room for later, when she is taking classes that are, by nature, hard and may not do as well.</p>

<p>Thanks. I also looked up the professor for Theatre Survey and the easiness was a 2.6. I hope she is able to get a seat in the Cinema Study course, already there are 20 seats out of 400 taken and she has the last Orientation date before school starts.</p>

<p>They do save seats for each orientation session so that when you go has no bearing on getting into classes. My daughter went to the second to last summer B orientation and she got into both of her first choice classes. The key is for your daughter to go in "armed" with the class numbers of the specific courses she wants, she will then be ahead of all the other kids who are spending valuable minutes looking it all up! My daughter completed registration for both summer and fall in 15 minutes last summer...there were kids who were at the computers for two hours!!!</p>

<p>Thanks. I thought they met with someone who helps them put their schedules together. Thanks for all the help, this is all new to me, she's coming from a first time in college family, so the entire experience is new for all of us.</p>

<p>I wanted to say thank you to all the parents on this forum who come back and support the parents of the freshman class. Your knowledge has helped so much in this important time of our life.</p>

<p>I looked up the CLEP Exam descriptions and other than English Composition, there were two other tests that she may excel in: Financial Accounting and College Algebra. She is currently taking an Accounting course in HS and loves it, in fact math is her stronger area.</p>

<p>Will UCF recognize Financial Accounting for 3 credits if she passes? I will give her those three options and see which one she feels more comfortable taking.</p>

<p>I want to support what Seiclan says about being "armed" going into the computer time of registration. My son and I also went through the catalog before he went to orientation (as we were going to be out of the country). He listened to the first year exploration counselor they provided, who essentially confirmed what we'd already figured out. Also, when the counselor said something that was "incorrect" as my son was going for a B.A. in Economics, and the counselor was gearing discussion more for the general business degrees, my S was able to specifically ask the counselor about the "discrepency" and not just take their answer on face value. He also had all his classes inputed while other kids were flipping through their catalogs and writing things down on sheets of paper. We'd told him to input the classes as quickly as possible, it's easier to drop/add switch around once you have something there. </p>

<p>The one thing we wished we'd done, looking in hindsight, is require him to take the math placement test. He clepped out of Algebra II, so he received that credit, which was good ... but as he needed into either straight calculus (for BA/MS, which he was considering) or Quantitative Business Tools I (business calculus), things got a little more convoluted not having the math placement test on record. That's the only area in two years where he's had to do some going back and forth between departments/advisors ... trying to get things adjusted (love Burnett for their help:)). He didn't take AP calc in high school; he only took honors calc ... and so, again, the placement test should have been taken. We got some bum advice that it wouldn't be needed and it just made things more difficult than they needed to have been. </p>

<p>The other area where we felt the first years exploration was a little generic in advising was for those who came in with AP exam credit. It was helpful that we'd taken the time before advising to go through and mark which courses his credits would account for within the gen eds ... that made it possible to not "duplicate" things and take classes in area we didn't need them. I believe this link is current for ap credit/to gen ed foundations, but double check against a catalog.</p>

<p>University</a> of Central Florida 2008-2009 Undergraduate Catalog - Advanced Placement Program (AP)</p>

<p>Good luck!
zebes</p>

<p>Here is the link to the UCF CLEP credit page so you can see which exams they award credit for (and which classes it is given in). The accounting clep would give her credit for ACG 1001 (accounting) and the college algebra test would get her out of MAC 1105 (good idea to do...this is a very hard class at UCF and your daughter really would not need any more college level math).
University</a> of Central Florida 2008-2009 Undergraduate Catalog - College Level Examination Program (CLEP)</p>

<p>Can you please explain where you can find the classes that will available for Fall 2009 or Summer 2009 for that matter? I can’t seem to find where that is located.</p>

<p>Peacemaker: Log in to MyUCF and go under the Student Self Service. There you can browse and search for possible classes. I’m just getting familiar with it and trying to figure out which classes I might take for summer/fall.</p>

<p>Question to anyone that might know: It appears as if you can sign up for classes through myucf… can you do this now or do you have to at freshmen orientation?</p>

<p>^^
If you are an incoming freshman, you cannot sign up for classes until orientation. Each orientation will have a certain amount of classes “released” for that group’s registration. You will go on-line, I believe on the second day, and sign up at that time. One thing to keep in mind is the “time” you sign up. Let’s say you get a class, but you don’t particularly care for that section’s time period … look when other orientations are going on, and on that second day of another’s orientation (about the same time you registered during yours) check to see what additional sections have opened up and do a drop/add. Just don’t drop a class until you’ve been able to add the other as you don’t want to lose the bird in the hand. :)</p>

<p>zebes</p>

<p>If my daughter gets the two classes she picked her schedule will look like this for Summer:</p>

<p>Mon 10:00-3:50
Tues 10:00-11:50
Wed 10:00-3:50
Thurs 10:00-11:50</p>

<p>Is that a schedule good enough for Summer? That is for 6 credits. If she wanted to do 9 and added another class to Tuesday and Thursday, would that be too much?</p>