<p>I was pretty pumped about taking Econ 201 w/ Elzinga. I added myself to the waitlist and wrote 250 words about why I was interested in the class. It's been over a week and he has yet to respond. Is Elzinga going to string me out until the 1st day of class? Does anybody have any experience with Elzinga's online course waitlist for Econ 201? Thanks.</p>
<p>jask, there's 150 people in the class. I don't thin Elzinga is going to try to find you out of a class of 150 just because you wrote a few sentences on the waitlist haha. And, stop worrying so much! It would be out of the norm if he sent you an e-mail saying "thank you jask for your interest! i would love to have you in my class! let me take you off the waitlist." this isn't high school. there's a lot of people on that waitlist and many probably wrote about their interest in the class (as you did.) also, elzinga's class is one of the most popular so the waitlist for that class will be long. </p>
<p>and if you are not taken off of the waitlist, then you could always approach him in person and ask him if you could join the class. (i think it's called course action? someone else can tell you more. all i know is that if you aren't placed in a class, then you could go talk to the professor and ask them if you could join the class and get a paper signed. something like that.) </p>
<p>seriously jask, you need to stop stalking ISIS. :) it sounds like you and the online waitlist went on a date. And then the waitlist hasn't called yet so your like "what happened? does he hate me? does he like me? why is he torturing me? just call me back!!!" hahaha. ;) seriously, you've provided me some entertainment since ISIS opened up.</p>
<p>haha db, you just added to the entertainment!</p>
<p>Alright hold up. First off, with the whole waitlist thing, you need to check your email everyday otherwise you could get an invitation and then get kicked out because you failed to respond in 24 hours. If anybody is needy, it's ISIS.</p>
<p>Second, there's 480 people in the class. It's not like I'm competing with 150 kids. I'm competing with over 3 times that many people.</p>
<p>Third, I believe that the waitlist is limited to the amount of students in the class, e.g. 480. Once the waitlist has reached 480, Elzinga is suppose to take a look and see who is worthy of being in his presence and who is not. As a result, the people who get denied are kicked off the waitlist which is why the waitlist will be gray one day and black the next.</p>
<p>Fourth, I'm getting anxious because I don't want to get ripped off. If he lets me into his class on the 1st day, I will have to shell out mucho dinero for textbooks.</p>
<p>Fifth, I am so happy db123 could enlighten me on the fact that college isn't like high school. I was inclined to believe toomuchlight.</p>
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<p><em>boom shaka laka shaka laka shaka boom</em> (or is it <em>boom shaka laka shaka laka shikki boom</em>?)</p>
<p>for some reason i thought the class had 150, not 480. my apologies.</p>
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<p>i'm confused! sorry.</p>
<p>jask, have you considered taking econ201 with another professor? Elzinga is good, but there are plenty of other good sections for that course. And at that level, it doesn't take a particularly talented teacher to lead you through the material, if you know what I mean.</p>
<p>Are the books the same for all sections? If so, you might as well buy the book now. If not, there's nothing wrong with buying the book a week or three into the class online. If you need a text for some reason within the first few class meetings, there will be plenty of people in your dorm with a copy you could probably borrow.</p>
<p>Yeah, great point cav302. I'll try to nab a spot w/ Mirman. I just heard all this hype over Elzinga so I thought I'd give him a shot.</p>
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What's there to be confused about?</p>
<p>ISIS isn't needy. ISIS is like a hermit, freak-kid who couldn't care less about you. It needs some coaxing, but once you get anything out of it, you need to leave it the heck alone. Don't be picky about what results you get from it. Get something, and get out. Occasionally, it needs a swift kick in the butt just because it is part of the real world and can act dumb, but again, don't expect much.</p>
<p>I took Elzinga last year and he told us first day that he doesn't accept people who course action since the waitlist is really long. If you don't get taken off the waitlist and you really wanna take his class, you could always just sign up for it next year. Or you could just pick another section.</p>
<p>what the hell does "<em>boom shaka laka shaka laka shaka boom</em> (or is it <em>boom shaka laka shaka laka shikki boom</em>?)" have to do with anything?</p>
<p>Everything.</p>
<p>hahaha okay. i believe it.</p>
<p>I was told by a little bird (a department director, actually) that Mirman's course is more challenging than Elzinga's, and is better suited for those who plan to major in economics, or something related. (Evolutionary biology and game-theory economics go hand in hand.)</p>
<p>Hmm, I don't see how Nash and Darwin go hand in hand but ok. Thanks for the tip even though I failed to see why you said little bird then reveal who it was...</p>
<p>The kind of modelling used in both subjects is math-heavy and both subjects concern how the individual, at times arbitrary, actions of individual actors give rise to an orderly outcome.</p>
<p>Wait are we really supposed to write in that little box on the waitlist page about how much we want to take in the class?? It seemed optional, and I just assumed these extremely busy professors wouldn't even be reading these comments. I figured they were for only for extenuating circumstances like "I am an X major and this is the last course I need so I can graduate this semester."</p>
<p>Should I be writing comments for all my waitlists in the future, and is it important enough to give up my place and go back and write comments?</p>
<p>aj-if the professor puts a note saying what he is looking for then you should definitely fill it out explaining why you need the course. Answer the question they may pose or give him the information being asked.</p>
<p>If they don't put a note you might as well put something down. Putting down nothing won't help, and putting down something won't hurt.</p>
<p>yeah that makes sense. the reason i was confused was that none of the classes I waitlisted had any sort of question... it was just "Note to professor." It's okay though because I happy with my schedule as is. But at least I know what to do next time. Thanks.</p>
<p>ok this is going way back in the thread, but that's what i get for only swinging by here once a week or less.</p>
<p>do not take econ210 with anyone but elzinga... unless you get off on math and formulas. all my friends who took 201 or 202 without elzinga/coppock had a much less of an enjoyable experience. </p>
<p>if you don't get in this fall, take him next fall, you shouldn't have any probs getting in during registration in the spring. if you're thinking of applying to the comm school or taking econ as a major that may impact your decision, but 9 times out of 10 i would tell someone to wait for elzinga's section. you should also show up to the class on the first day (if your schedule permits) because he will likely speak to those on the waitlist.</p>
<p>Econ 201/202 have math...?</p>