<p>Does anyone know if engineering, specifically biomedical engineering, counts as a science or a non science for the creative scholars program? Engineering seems like almost a science in my mind but maybe not exactly because it is also math oriented.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that this program was more for liberal arts majors (English, History, etc…). I don’t know for sure though. You can always call and ask :)</p>
<p>I would assume BME is a no-go though since BME is in the School of Science and Engineering.</p>
<p>I am almost 100% sure that engineering counts as a science. Nonetheless, I agree that asking whomever is in charge of the program is the only way to know definitely, unless someone else has already asked and pipes up here.</p>
<p>Science and Math both fall under the Bachelors of Science, so it won’t count.</p>
<p>I’m interested in the same program, and emailed the advisor at Tulane back and forth 15 times. Finally figured out that any major that gives u a BS degree is counted science. So Engineering counts too. I was planning on Engineering and Creative, but no. Now I’m more towards Finance and Creative program, since Freeman Finance major is pretty well known and it would benefit in the future of a MD career.
Also, keep in mind, the committee admit u in the program partially based on ur interest in non-science. So your schedule can’t even have many if not any science classes beyond the requirement. The acceptance rate of the program is over 50% if qualified, but the pre-profession advisor told me that many get rejected because they put too many science on their schedule and wish to apply for other med schools since the program is not binding.
I’m deciding on my college soon, and Tulane is by far my top choice even in front of Duke, mainly because of this program. If u plan going there too, we should get to know each other. 
Maybe that would help since we are interested in the same program…</p>
<p>Finance is under the Bachelors of Science, so it won’t work with Creative program either.</p>
<p>Finance is freeman business right? I asked the advisor at Tulane, and she said BSM isn’t considered BS, so any business degree counts. Finance is a part of Undergrad Business program though… Are you sure about that>?</p>
<p>Well, it is a Bachelor of Science, but there is only one physical science course because Newcomb-Tulane requires it. That would be true for any degree I think, so it must be all the math. That is a bit of a surprise, I had never looked at that. Here is something that is directly posted on the med school web site:</p>
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Now no matter what you call the degree, I see no way a finance major, or any business major, can be called a science.</p>
<p>I would get a definitive answer by finding out who at the medical school is responsible for the CSP, and asking them that direct question. Call med school admissions and ask whoever answers the phone who you can talk to that knows all about the Creative Scholars Program. That should get to the bottom of this. Let us know what you find out.</p>
<p>I emailed, “Is Bachelor of Science in Management (BSM) considered non-science major? Or only Bachelor of Art is considered non- science?”</p>
<p>"Yes the business major is fine.</p>
<p>Kathleen Maier
Preprofessional Advisor
Tulane University
218 Richardson Building
New Orleans, LA 70118
504-865-5370
<a href=“mailto:kmurphy@tulane.edu”>kmurphy@tulane.edu</a>
<a href="http://advising.tulane.edu/pre-professional.html">http://advising.tulane.edu/pre-professional.html</a>"</p>
<p>She’s the pre-profesasion advisor at Tulane. Undergrad admission told me to contact her about the program. We exchanged 15 emails… So I assume she’s the one who knows the stuff…</p>
<p>Thanks for finding out. That’s good to know.</p>
<p>Sounds pretty definitive to me also. I have heard good things about her, so I think you are quite right that she knows.</p>
<p>Whew!</p>
<p>Here are some of our emails, it may help those who are interested in the program whom will be competing with me in the future. But now, I should help y’all! The Tulane Spirit!</p>
<p>Question: :"So if I get this right, engineering is considered a science major? I thought it was not in the same category as science. "</p>
<p>Answer: “Yes engineering is considered a science. The Creative scholar is for Tulane students and Tulane Medical does I believe want the tuition upfront and they can tell you more about that.
It is a great program for nonscience majors. More than half apply get in so the acceptance is very good. Having good activities is helpful but there is only so many you can do in your first two years but a couple of clubs and community work is good.”</p>
<p>Question:“Ok,So if all are qualified, why do almost half get rejected? Are there more
things they consider than GPA and curriculum?
As a high schooler, I’ve shadowed a well known general surgeon in our
area, Dr. Charles Ives, for over 60 hours and went into many surgeries,
experienced tumor board conference, and EVMS (eastern virginia Medical
School) surgical conference, met president of American Board of Surgeons
Dr. Britt. Does this kind of experience help?”</p>
<p>Answer: “Some students did go below a 3.6 at the end of the final semester and
keeping the 3.6 and over is a very important criteria. Also students
tend to put science courses on their schedule and this is not what the
Committee is looking for. There is a schedule you need to present to the
Committee demonstrating nonscience interest and some students are
worried about not having sciences. This is not a binding program so
students most of the time want to apply to other medical schools even if
they have been accepted to Tulane.
Yes some of the activities you have listed can be listed on the application.”</p>
<p>Question: “So if I choose a non-science major (maybe business), and maintain a 3.6,
design a good non-science schedule, only have applying to the program in
mind, not worrying about other med school, I would have a good chance
right? I’m specifically interested in this program because the difficulty
of applying to Med school the normal way as an international student,
since over half of med schools don’t even accept internationals. If
there’s a good chance for me to get into this program, I would do
anything to meet the requirements and choose Tulane over many other
prestige schools.”</p>
<p>Answer: “That sounds like a good plan. Also doing well in your interview matters.
Need to be able to express why you are interested in this program and why
Tulane.”</p>
<p>btw, some of the questions she answered about the tuition is only applicable for international students. So don’t worry about that part. The great democratic gov.'s not going to make u pay the tuition up front! Only to us internationals… Although after being in America for so long, I don’t even feel foreign myself any more. But… I’m still considered international under any legal process…</p>