credit by exam at Fordham (AP credits)

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<p>I have searched the Fordham web site and can't find a policy for AP credits - is it like the Ivy League schools and only awards credits for 5's? </p>

<p>I saw something about Honors program students using AP credits (for math or science?) but even that wasn't explicit, and it wasn't clear how your AP language, history, econ, calculus, etc., scores would help you if you aren't in the Honors program.</p>

<p>I think there must be a table somewhere that shows what credits are granted for what test scores and I can't find it - is this something I need to write to Fordham for?</p>

<p>Thanks!!!</p>

<p>p.s. Does Fordham give credit for CLEP test scores? The web site for the Fordham College of Liberal Studies says they offer Fordham credit for CLEP tests - is that relevant to undergrads at Fordham University?</p>

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<p>Fordham gives "elective" credit for a score of 3 or higher; this means that if you receive a 3 on an exam, you will gain 3 credits (helpful since that means you can take one less elective class). To place out of a class in the AP exam subject, you need at least a 4 (for example, to place out of the math requirement, you'd need at least a 4 on AP calc.) Also, it depends very heavily on the department-- for the chem. department to place out of any chem class, you need a 5 (not even 4's are accepted). If you get stuck in this predicament and you aren't allowed to place out of a class, then I''m pretty sure your score will still count as extra credits (if you get a 4 on the chem test and arent allowed to place out of gen. chem, that 4 will still count as 4 "elective" credits-- meaning, later down the road, you'll be able to take one less elective class and thus, have a lighter workload).</p>

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<p>You should consult the Undergraduate Bulletin 2006-2008. It is a guide for almost everything!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.fordham.edu/UndergraduateBulletin/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.fordham.edu/UndergraduateBulletin/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Search for "Advanced Placement" or actually type in "Advanced Placement" in the "Search" box. The Dean of Freshmen and Sophomores will determine the final transfer credits. Make sure you bubbled in Fordham on your exam sheet.</p>

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<p>If you are using AP credits as elective credits, do they make a dent in the list of core requirements?</p>

<p>Would a good scores on the World History AP test cover one of the two history classes required?
If you score well on AP English lit, do you still have to take both of those two literature courses?
Do good scores on AP Micro and AP Macro cover the requirement for two social science classes?
I'm assuming a good AP calculus score will cover the one mathematical reasoning requirement.
Does the non-calculus based AP physics test cover one of the two required science credits?<br>
You need two philosophy courses.
You need two religion courses.
If you are taking 32 classes, 8 classes a year for 4 years. The core list says you need to take 17 to 21 of these classes as classes from the recommended list of core classes. This seems like a lot. A double major doesn't seem like an option at Fordham?</p>

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<p>The way I read the Bulletin, many of the core courses, if not most, are semester courses, so your "math" is wrong. Its not 8 courses a year for 4 years. Its typically 5 courses a semester, 10 a year, and a minimum of 32, but up to 40 (relatively) for graduation, and of course taking into account AP waivers and testing out etc. in languages. Its much more flexible than you think. MANY people double major. Whether or not you graduate in four years or five depends on a number of factors, including course load, availability of a course, whether you study abroad or not, and your long term goals (taking the 5 year BA/MA plans etc. that are available). </p>

<p>NONE of this is decided until after the Freshman year, so relax and enjoy it. Even if you are a math/science person, taking the core is a great opportunity to study disciplines you may never have an opportunity to study again in your life....a once in a lifetime chance to expand your mind a little and examine problems from a different angle. THAT IS A PLUS, not a minus in my book.</p>

<p>Too many people get all neurotic about majors too soon and then run around like chickens with their heads cut off, frenetically exclaiming, "I am late, late, late for a very important date!" "I am triple majoring and I have no life and no time for anything." (I actually heard this from a couple of students on the campus of a PRESTIGIOUS mid western school). Its bizarre, unhealthy and in my opinion, counter productive to why you are at Fordham (or anywhere in college.)</p>

<p>College is about balance, being exposed to new ideas that challenge you. In the ideal world you dont declare a major until after core curriculum is finished to see if something really grabs you and inspires you. The road is littered with intended majors only to be changed a couple of times. I changed mine (a long time ago), and ended up taking a different direction. But I would not trade my undergraduate experience for a million dollars. It was fabulous. Relax, sit back, enjoy it and embrace it. You will work hard, but you should ENJOY it.</p>

<p>And if you see that you have the interest and time to double major, I applaud you and wish you well.</p>

<p>Its a GOOD thing when people explore things that they are unfamiliar with, or even challenged a bit more (outside their known strengths).</p>

<p>Life is not a straight line or narrow pathway. Good luck!</p>

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<p>You will get a letter from the dean, and the bulletin explains and solves many of your questions.</p>

<p>Indeed, friedokra is right about double majoring. Fordham allows you to double major and even a double minor because of the core. The core allows to have a wide range of classes, just in case your change majors in sophomore/junior years. Remember, this is not trade or technical school--this is college, and you want to be "well-rounded" in this new economy.</p>