CS will be impacted, but when? Double major for safety?

<p>The general consensus is that CS will be impacted again, but when? I don't mind if it is impacted as it will increase the prestige, but I need to plan ahead for this.</p>

<p>I am currently a freshman intended CS major, meaning I will declare in Spring 2014. Will CS be impacted by then? Should I double major in Econ as a backup?</p>

<p>Probably. I doubt that it will be Fall 2013 since TeleBEARS has already started. Unless the CS department really wants to screw prospective CS majors then I don’t think they will make CS impacted next semester. Double majoring is a good back-up.</p>

<p>As a side note, is it plausible that the CS department reject applicants from declaring the CS major during Fall? Or is it just a matter of getting above a 2.0 until the GPA cap hits?</p>

<p>You just need a 2.0 until the new restrictions are announced.</p>

<p>I remember way back when (when CS was capped, probably with a 3.0 or 3.2 GPA in prerequisites needed), applied math was a common alternate major. Note that applied math majors get some additional priority for registering for CS 170, 172, and 174 (though only 170 seems to be potentially hard to register for).</p>

<p>Economics is also a capped major, requiring a 3.0 GPA in its prerequisites for admission.</p>

<p>I heard back when it was capped years ago that CS LS had a 50% acceptance rate for sophomores applying to it as their major. Did all of those who were rejected had lower than the prerequisite GPA, and those who exceeded it surely could’ve gotten in?</p>

<p>^ 50%?! That’s ridiculously competitive!</p>

<p>Yeah, unfortunately that was the case back when it was capped. Given such high rejection numbers, I’m fairly certain that qualified applicants (those above 3.3 and met all other course requirements), were rejected as well.</p>

<p>“Back then it required a 3.3 gpa in the 6 lower division courses to make it into the L&S CS major… 1 out of 2 used to get in”</p>

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<p>However, the poster of that post graduated in 2003, which meant frosh entry in 1999 or so, at the height of the tech bubble, when interest in the CS major was presumably the highest. No surprise that they may have had a fairly high standard to avoid going overcapacity in the major back then.</p>

<p>Subsequent lack of interest after the tech bubble crash is probably why CS was later uncapped.</p>

<p>would you say enrollment in cs ls today is comparable to back around the early 2000s? I do hear talks of record enrollments in all the intro cs classes recently</p>

<p>Unfortunately, the archived schedules here:
[Online</a> Schedule Of Classes Archive - Office Of The Registrar](<a href=“http://registrar.berkeley.edu/?PageID=OSOCarchive.html]Online”>http://registrar.berkeley.edu/?PageID=OSOCarchive.html)
only go back to 2003, and do not show actual enrollments, although you can make a guess as to the class capacity by counting discussion and lab sections and/or noting what rooms the classes were in (CS 61A seemed to have capacity for about 300 per semester in 2003; whether it had that many students enrolled is not knowable from the information given).</p>

<p>So is Spring 2014 really the start of the impacted CS major? Should I try to take a heavy schedule to finish the rest of the prereqs in Fall 2013 and declare then to avoid the pressure?</p>

<p>If I try to finish the rest of my prereqs in the fall to declare ASAP, my schedule will be:</p>

<p>CS70
CS61C
Math 54
Breadth</p>

<p>Not to mention I’ll be working ~10 hours each week. Does that look like too much?</p>

<p>CS 70 should be like a math course in terms of workload.</p>

<p>I heard from other CS students before that you can still apply/declare CS while you’re in the process of completing a few pre-requisites. This could be done during the last semester of completing pre-requisites but I think they limit the IP pre-requisites to 2 or less meaning that they’ll allow you to declare, only if you have only 2 pre-req courses in progress to be completed that semester. </p>

<p>Can anyone confirm? Maybe it’s 3.</p>

<p>If lets say, I get rejected from CS with a decent (above 3.0 GPA). If I instead major in applied math and concentrate or minor in CS, will I still have a very good shot at software internships and jobs?</p>

<p>^ What makes you think you’ll get rejected?</p>

<p>When is cap occurring, does anyone know?
Say cap occurs on Fall 2013. If I apply in the fall 2013, what happens?</p>

<p>It certainty won’t occur this semester, right?</p>

<p>Then obviously, you’ll need to have above a 3.0 GPA to be admitted. I wouldn’t worry about Fall 2013. I’m in the same boat as you and I already talked to Chris Hunn multiple times about this and he said not to worry as the cap will probably be in Spring 2014.</p>

<p>Does that mean for incoming freshman for the 2013-2014 year that we will once again have to face CS being impacted?</p>

<p>Most likely, yes.</p>

<p>So as long as we have above a 3.0 GPA we should be fine?</p>